September 1, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: It is a FACT MSFS 2020 has too much green/yellow. In many cases the roads can have a green tint. Green fields are often cartoonist and nothing like reality. The latest UK WU proves correct colours can be produced by default, just look at the area around EGNM (Leeds) which is spectacular I am not disagreeing with you here. The colors are all awash in MSFS. I have to change a bunch using the filters. Speaking of, I really like your settings! 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 1, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: You have to edit RAW images the overwhelming majority of the time. Again, you're arguing with something fairly subjective here. Photography is an art. Its not an End-All-Be-All because you said so Yes and no. RAW images maintain the highest resolution and allow for lossless editing. However, sometimes the original RAW requires no editing at all and can be converted to the end format best for its purpose without editing. The nice thing about the RAW format is I can edit if needed with no loss in quality. As a professional photographer for 50 years and a professional videographer for 44 years, I would point out that the proper representation is only as accurate as the setting for color temperature. Daylight is actually "cool" in color temperature, adding blues and greens to the scene. Artificial light from old tungsten lamps was "warm" in color temp, adding reds and yellows to the scene. Modern digital cameras can adapt to color temperature on the fly (to a point) but are only accurate if set up properly with a grey card or white card (if white is truly white, then all other colors in the scene will be accurate). Of course, you may still not like the "natural" image, so you may want to add color shift, increase contrast, etc. until you get the result you want. Randall Rocke
September 1, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Abriael said: Here, two more from an observation deck, no window in the way. I'd have thousands to show, all with the same results. To get the light in MSFS similar to your photos, filters of some sort would need to be used. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
September 1, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: To get the light in MSFS similar to your photos, filters of some sort would need to be used. Not really. The lighting is very close. I fly exactly from the same airport these pictures are taken at regularly. The difference is minimal. Edited September 1, 20241 yr by Abriael Editor-in-Chief at SimulationDaily.com
September 1, 20241 yr Just now, Abriael said: Not really. The lighting is very close. 😁🙄 CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
September 1, 20241 yr Just now, MrBitstFlyer said: 😁🙄 Feel free to actually argue your case. Smileys aren't a very solid argument. Editor-in-Chief at SimulationDaily.com
September 1, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Abriael said: This looks like you're looking at it through a blue lens. I'm not sure why people think the slight yellow tint is a problem, considering that's what natural sunlight looks like according to physics. As someone who dabbles rather heavily in photography, this position honestly baffles me. Here's a picture taken with a high quality camera and lens in natural sunlight at 1 PM in June. This is straight JPG conversion from the RAW without any editing whatsoever. The yellow tint is clearly visible because that's how natural sunlight looks filtered by this planet's atmosphere. By all means, if you like to watch stuff through a blue filter, more power to you, but REX Atmos and all these manual efforts to remove the "yellow tint" are making the visuals less realistic. This pretty much how my sim looks without even using NVIDIA filters. I am on a 77in OLED LG C3. I just use the settings in there with a combination of some simple setting with the regular NCP. Using HDR, My NCP settings - Brightness - 60% Contrast 50% Gamma 1.00 Dig Vibrance 43% TV Settings - Brightness - Warm 35 Game Contrast 80 OLED brightness 85 Dynamic tone Mapping - HGiG Edited September 1, 20241 yr by B777ER Eric
September 1, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, Abriael said: Feel free to actually argue your case. Likewise. Some of us had made some claims, rebuttals and arguments of our own but you've yet to reply.... 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 1, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: Likewise. Some of us had made some claims, rebuttals and arguments of our own but you've yet to reply.... "No you're wrong" which is pretty much what your posts translate to, is not much of a rebuttal that I have to bother responding to. Editor-in-Chief at SimulationDaily.com
September 1, 20241 yr Just now, Abriael said: "No you're wrong" which is pretty much what your posts translate to, is not much of a rebuttal that I have to bother responding to. Again, likewise. Your previous posts basically dismiss anything I said or others. So again, likewise. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 1, 20241 yr I think a lot of you have good filter ideas above. Some of you are just straight trolling here and its annoying, wanting to argue about everything. I typically stick with Brightness/contrast and details but I feel like if I do more, I start messing with other things that already look good.... 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 1, 20241 yr It's all relative (wasn't Einstein a genius?!). Using the output of a camera as reference isn't really the gold standard. Too many variables, such as the manufacturer's colour science, the time of year, the time of day, pollution factors etc. The list goes on and on. Now throw each individual monitor into the mix and add to that one's own eyesight and you have a Gordian knot situation. Bottom line: If you're happy with what you see on your screen then that's the perfect setting for you. Either that or keep tinkering to your heart's content. MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
September 1, 20241 yr Author 12 minutes ago, speedyTC said: Gordian knot situation Which can be handled either by acknowledging the complexity or using brute force. I prefer the first approach. I’ll probably keep tuning the filters a little, although I don’t think nvidia allows for much fine-tuning. And I want to avoid using NCP as it affects all of Windows. Edited September 1, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
September 1, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: Which can be handled either by acknowledging the complexity or using brute force. I prefer the first approach. Just to chuck in an extra layer of confusion...have you played around with Reshade? Now that is a truly deep rabbit hole! MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
September 1, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Abriael said: Feel free to actually argue your case. Smileys aren't a very solid argument. How about posting some images from your MSFS 2020 to show how close the colours are? MSFS is well know for a big variance in realism with its colours & lighting. Your real world photos are as equally irrelevant as my smilies without seeing your sim to back up your claims. Show us you use zero filters of any kind or have not adjusted colour settings at all. I love how real MSFS2020 can look, but I also know how bad it can look! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
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