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Check out my 2D panels on a touchscreen

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hi gang. i just finished some modified FSX panels for use on an auxiliary touchscreen. i was inspired by the "touch buddy" (interesting name, i know) software that people have been using with other flight sims like lock on. basically, i created some 2D panels formatted to fit well on an 800 x 600 touchscreen. i also created a button bar that makes it easy to switch between panels by touching an on-screen button on the touchscreen. it's a lot easier to flip switches and drag levers on the touchscreen than with the mouse in the 3D virtual cockpit. this is especially true if you're using track IR, since it's hard to keep your head still enough to click buttons precisely. it's also nice to keep panels like the GPS, ATC window, kneeboard, or xgauge open without blocking your exterior view on the main screen. everything that's clickable via mouse is touchable on the touchscreen, including the ATC options.i'm using a 8.4" lilliput touchscreen i got off ebay for about $250 w/ shipping. this is a well known and liked brand, and the quality seems pretty good to me. it has a native res of 800 x 600, but it will go higher too. driver works fine in vista 32, but i had to download a newer one than the one that came on the included CD.so far i have done the panels for the learjet, and i'm working on panels for the cessna 172. it's kind of a lot of work to do these panels, so i'm hoping some other panel developers will want to pitch in and help get panels done for all the aircraft. i'm also planning on making a couple of generic panels for use in any aircraft. one panel will have buttons for non-aircraft sim functions like pause, sim rate, etc. the other will have the more obscure aircraft functions that are not present on any other 2D panels. these panels will have a similar look and feel to other aircraft panels. my goal is to be able to do everything from the touchscreen and never have to use the keyboard in game.i'm new to panel development, and i'm still working out some kinks. i can't figure out a way to make the panels open directly on the touchscreen, so right now you have to open each one on the main screen and drag them over to the touchscreen. once they've been dragged there, they will show/hide in the same place on the touchscreen for the rest of the flight. also, the kneeboard window does not always hide when you open another panel by pushing a button on the button bar. this might be solvable, but i'll save that for another thread.i'll post my panel files on my website as soon as i get a chance. from my searching on the forums, it seems that not many people are using touchscreens with FSX. i hope my efforts will kick off a trend, and we see more panels optimized for touchscreens. what do you say; have i inspired anyone to buy a touchscreen?

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Ben74,That looks very interesting. Any idea what happen to Touch-Buddy? The forums appear like they are no longer active.

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>Ben74,>>That looks very interesting. Any idea what happen to>Touch-Buddy? The forums appear like they are no longer>active.thanks! dunno about TB. lock on is kind of old, so maybe interest is waning. i still fire it up once in a while. great sim.

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I'm still using Lock-On myself. Just curious as to what version of TouchBuddy you are using and and what version of the TouchBuddy Toolkit are using to program the your touchscreen and are you using them under Vista or in XP.

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i'm not using TB for FSX, if that's what you're asking. the button bar at the bottom of the screenshots is a FSX panel itself.

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Nice job...I'm a big fan of the Learjet and love the all in one type of panels. In case you are curious, i've attached my all-in-one version.If anyone is interested in the panel.cfg changes, simply PM me.

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very nice. are you using a big touchscreen, or just keeping this on a 2nd monitor? i have been modifying the mouse areas on the gauges to make them easier to use on a touchscreen. this mainly means making them bigger, since a finger is a little less precise than a cursor.

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I was thinking of using a touchscreen, but 19" touch screens are a bit pricey. I use 3 19" samsung monitors with a triplehead2go unit for the out side view. I removed all VC textures which gives me a nice view outside and the ability to use the hat switch to pan around. Then on my 19" monitor attached to the 2nd video out on my 7950GT card, i have my all-in-one 2D gauge which I undock. This gives me the best of the VC and 2D world.

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This was a fantastic idea. I have been playing around with the Wilco 737 and moved the overhead panel to the touchscreen. So much more enjoyable flipping those switches with the touch of a finger rather than bring up the panel, clicking the mouse and all.I have spent the last two days moving panels and switches over to the touchscreen! Love it! Now i'm looking for some minature plunger buttons in order to attempt making an FMC front panel that makes contact with the touchscreen.

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I have been wondering a long time if FS could use touchscreens. Are there any limitations that have been found? Do they work like a mouse, where all you need to do is touch any mouse-clickable spot, and it works? Can you click-and-drag a control, like a mixture control or throttle? Can you still use a mouse if you want? What about with Track IR? I can only imagine that a Triple-Head-2-Go setup along with Track IR using touchscreens would just about be the ultimate in realism that we could get in FS.Hmmnn...

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So far in my tinkering, I have found zero limitations. But I am doing this in FS9, not FSX. I am able to undock the panel, move it the touchscreen and continue to run in full screen. The panel on the touchscreen operates just as it would normally. All gauges move, all items are clickable and dragable, there is no difference. And the mouse still works so that option is there also.Since this is on a seperate monitor undocked, there is no issue with track IR.

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I am a little curious though, how did you manage the panel selection bar across the bottom? Is this in itself a gauge?

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>weak. looks like the images were deleted by admins? i wonder>why. here they are, hosted externally.FYI, all images uploaded to AVSIM (as well as most other websites) will "autoexpire" after several days. Were this not so, the server's hard drive(s) would rapidly fill to capacity in very short order! :)OTOH, sometimes however images are deleted 'manually,' but typically not without some accompanying note from the moderator or admin as to why...

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i see. it seems to me if you can only afford to host a thread's images for three days, you might as well not host them at all. nobody expects unlimited hosting, but three days? oh well.

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I figured the row was a seperate window with buttons being individual gagues.Now if you press Panel 1, then press panel 2, does it close panel 1 while opening panel 2? Or are there multiple windows open at the same time?Or, is there a way to call up a gauge or window while opening it in the same window?e.g. I open Window 8, which has my row of buttons along the bottom. Then I press the button I have assigned to APU related stuff, can I set it so that the APU related stuff opens in that same window?

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I bet if more availed themselved of this:http://www.avsim.com/pages/helpus.shtmlor contributed in the file downloads section even more free services could be provided. Until then-I would wager the way this site is run is done to keep it on budget.Of course I know my salary here is a big drain... :-lolhttp://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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right. say if you pressed panel 3, it will open the GPS. then if you press panel 4, it will close panel 3 and open panel 4 (what it actually does is close all panels, then opens panel 4). if you want to try it out, here's a zip with everything you need. you don't need a touchscreen to see how it works. see the readme for installation.http://benhirashima.com/hostedFiles/FSX/Bu...WithLearJet.zip

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Snazzy!Hopefully some time will open up so I can start to fiddle with this more. I'm on the lowest point of the learning curve for panel editing, so this is going to take a few minutes for me to get myself edjimicated.

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Your post got my interest as I bought a lilliput touchscreen a few years ago to try to use in the airplane but had to give up do to Rf problems.I dragged mine out and it is pretty cool-running ezgps on it.I like your button ideas-is there anyway to customize their labels?I used panelstudio but could not find the text on the buttons thru the program.In any case a cool idea!http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/184310.jpg

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the button labels are defined in the gauges. each button is a gauge. if you open the xml file for the button, you'll see the label and you can change it. you'll have to extract the files from the cab file in order to do this.

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