I have not flown to KPDX airport in a long time and yesterday I noticed black lines on the river and even on parts of the FB KPDX. This was one of my favorite destinations and it's sad to see that it has been ruined by an update or maybe something else. Has anyone been able to nail down why this happens?

Here's a long thread on the issue: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/black-lines-in-the-water/443618?page=2

7 hours ago, CFIJose said:

Has anyone been able to nail down why this happens?

Is it still present in MSFS 2024?

 

1 hour ago, fppilot said:

Is it still present in MSFS 2024?

 

I read that it still is.

For what its worth, KPDX is my home airport and I am sim in this area weekly.  I have never seen this, not once in MSFS 2020 since release.  Do you have a specific photo from this airport area showing the Columbia Rive and these 'black lines'?  The linked discussion does not show this area.

47 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

For what its worth, KPDX is my home airport and I am sim in this area weekly.  I have never seen this, not once in MSFS 2020 since release.  Do you have a specific photo from this airport area showing the Columbia Rive and these 'black lines'?  The linked discussion does not show this area.

Hi Mike. Thanks for your post.

There are some pics out there, but I'll take some pics with all the freeware add-on available at flightsim.to.  There's some beautiful add-ons, but some make the water even worse. Is as if there's a layer of water (photo texture) that distorts the water. This is happening all over the Portland area. Only in the rivers, bu I have also some issues at KPDX.

I fly in and out regularly using Flightbeams KPDX and it always looks gorgeous in both 2020 and 2024

I just have a quick look with my MSFS2024 and the FlightBeam KPDX and didn't see any artefact on the river. Do you have a specific location to check?

If you depart from KTTD and fly down the river toward KPDX you might see the black lines pop in and out. I tried with no mods and they still appear.

With PDXtreme - Hayden Island, I get disappearing tiles. It sucks because it's a beautiful location and add-on.

BTW, all WU are installed and the only other place I've seen these black lines was in Maui.

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Edited January 11, 20251 yr by CFIJose

8 hours ago, CFIJose said:

If you depart from KTTD and fly down the river toward KPDX you might see the black lines pop in and out. I tried with no mods and they still appear.

Got it with your suggested flight. I certainly was looking for something more visible. Not saying it's not an artefact but was expecting something wider. MSFS2024.

4 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

Got it with your suggested flight. I certainly was looking for something more visible. Not saying it's not an artefact but was expecting something wider. MSFS2024.

Thank you for confirming. I got a chance to explore the entire area and it's a lovely as I remember it from FZ KPDX. It brought back lots of memories. Maybe a creative dev might find a solution one day. For now, I had my fun in the Portland area. It's time to explore SFO.

I had those black lines around KPDX (and in many places around the globes), mainly around the river but also the line was extending to runway 10L. On the ground, it was forming a kind of crack and the scenery was not usuable because the aircraft would crash if it encountered the crack.

Anyway, once I switched to optical fiber internet, the black lines were still there but it was way less visible and the crack on the runway was not there anymore, or at least so thin that the aircraft would not crash anymore.

Haven't tryed on msfs24 yet.

I haven't bough the upgrade to KPD 2.00 yet but I hope it is not worse that what it was in 1.00