January 15, 20251 yr Moderator @bosflo, it’s difficult to help when you’re asking questions but not supplying any info. Questions… 1) What is the full path to your AIG install? 2) Name 3 airlines you’ve installed. Do you see those aircraft at airports? BA at Heathrow for example. Forget STB for now. We need to know Ai are being loaded into P3D. v4 is fine. Don’t delete anything manually. You can remove individual airlines by using AIG Ai Manager. All related aircraft models and textures will be removed. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 15, 20251 yr Moderator A quck 'n dirty guide to AIG Manager. My AIG install path is C:\AIG\AIGAIM - OCI. In that folder there are 9 folders and 2 files including a warning file. Now the main AIG Ai Manager interface... The version number and other relevant info is at the bottom left. I have 1213 BGL and AIGFP airlines installed. Moving to the top. The ! button has 3 states. OK, Defunct and Outdated. The first means the airline is fine. Defunct means the airline is no longer operating. Outdated means an update is available. Source shows if it's a BGL or AIGFP. The red Dustbin is how you delete the selected airline. All relevant texture files are also deleted. I hope that helps. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 15, 20251 yr 6 hours ago, bosflo said: How do you select to use bgl instead of the default for the installer. Things change pretty quick because it used to only be bgl files and now there is this new thing. I did not see a bgl choice and now I have downloaded all the packages into P3D. I have noticed STB not playing well with the traffic controller and that is not a good thing. If I need to install all the packages again then so be it because I want them to work with STB and I have a pretty fast computer 😉 Just check the AIG installer. It is somewhere in the settings. OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons) Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods
January 15, 20251 yr Moderator 2 hours ago, blaunarwal said: Just check the AIG installer. It is somewhere in the settings. The option is for preferring AIGFP files. If unselected the default is BGL. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 15, 20251 yr Author ok, so here's what I got. I installed every package into P3D using aifp because I didn't know about the bgl option. They all load fine in the game but my problem came with STB because I didn't know you had to run the traffic manager to see anything into the game. I kept doing it the old way and kept wondering why the traffic manager kept popping up when P3D is launched. Then it would show aircraft in the traffic manager but not in the game. I remember back in the day the (bgl) files were listed individually in the scenery/ world scenery folder and I could add repaints and stuff like that. When I ran STB it did not show all those individual flightplans rather it just showed a trafficcarriers file. I think I will start to delete a few packages and then put them back in using the bgl but I just want to make sure it's done right. Thanks for your help and I am glad people are still using and supporting P3D.
January 17, 20251 yr Author Well that was fun. I took your suggestion and replaced my aifp traffic files with the bgl ones. It took a long time but I think it will be worth it. The million dollar question is can i delete all the zipped traffic files if they are now in the program? In the past you couldn't do a single small thing with the files otherwise you have to start everything over. It would be just to save some computer space if I could put them on a zip drive if needed later. Thanks again
January 17, 20251 yr Moderator @bosflo, you haven’t said if everything is working okay. I’ve never had to delete any files. I suggest you ask on the AIG forum explaining what you’ve done to get to this point. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 17, 20251 yr Author yes, I have traffic working because of the file changes. So far it works in STB because when I compile I can see the airline package names from the scenery/world/scenery folder. When I was in the traffic manager I downloaded the zipped airline package files and then when I installed them using the manager I had to point to those zipped airline files on a folder on my computer. I hope I did it correctly because I'm sure you will tell me that there was a much easier way and I could have saved hours of time. Which is pretty much the way things go for me. Thanks again
January 17, 20251 yr Moderator 15 minutes ago, bosflo said: When I was in the traffic manager I downloaded the zipped airline package files and then when I installed them using the manager I had to point to those zipped airline files on a folder on my computer. I don’t do it that way. I’ll reply tomorrow. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 18, 20251 yr I've never understood how you mention that STB monitors ai traffic from Gate to Gate.. From FS2004 through every version of P3d and even now in MSFS 2020 the AI was injected from bgl or AIGTC to maybe a 60nm radius from your user aircraft (MSFS2020 increased to closer to 90nm). ANYTHING beyond that wasn't injected or tracked unless you flew within it's injection area. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
January 18, 20251 yr If he was using JF FS Traffic that load the AI at the start of the sim they do not inject near you. https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/30453552198/in/dateposted-public https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/43372520804/in/dateposted-public Raymond Fry.
January 18, 20251 yr Moderator 19 hours ago, bosflo said: When I was in the traffic manager I downloaded the zipped airline package files and then when I installed them using the manager I had to point to those zipped airline files on a folder on my computer. I hope I did it correctly because I'm sure you will tell me that there was a much easier way and I could have saved hours of time. There are two options for downloading an airline. Choose Install and not Download. The select OCI-Install and on the next screen, Install. If you're prompted to download a file it means you've not saved the AvSim Library cookie. Make sure you do that. Settings - Cookies. AvSim status should be Logged In. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
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