6 hours ago, Paladin2005 said:

Always update to the newest drivers to benefit from corrected bugs, newest features and performance.

Never stick on old drivers if not absolutely necessary.

I totally disagree. I rarely update my graphics drivers if I am not experiencing any problems, and it is a method that has served me well for decades. I have never seen any obvious performance gains (or any other benefits) when I have updated my graphics drivers in the past.

Just now, Christopher Low said:

I totally disagree. I rarely update my graphics drivers if I am not experiencing any problems, and it is a method that has served me well for decades. I have never seen any obvious performance gains (or any other benefits) when I have updated my graphics drivers in the past.

I guess putting the latest drivers on a 10 year old card is probably not worth it.

I've seen significant gains in MSFS from other drivers in the past, 572.16 is only a minor uplift I'd say, although I'm not yet using DLSS4. Happy to wait for that to happen on it's own in due course. No CTD's from the drivers or the app though. 

On 1/29/2025 at 3:45 PM, environmental_ice said:

I am on a 2080TI and event viewer would normally show out of memory after a crash. I had no issues with crashes at all on FS2020 for 4 years until I updated my drivers. After updating My simulator would constantly crash after about 2-3 flights, have long freezes and pauses during cruise even and cause my airplane to lose or gain about 2-3 thousand feet of altitude after a freeze. Initially it made me think it was an issue with the Fenix which is what I primary fly. I have reverted back to a driver version of 555.99 build from summer of 2024! and now my sim is once again very stable. 

Is anyone else experiencing an unstable sim recently? Maybe roll back your driver update. 

I have been battling this since around driver 565 ish. Constant freezes and CTD's, MSFS was unusable. After many months of trying and failing, I finally found a solution to make it playable. It seems for me, the new drivers kept using more and more VRAM and I was getting a slight momentary dimming of my monitor every few seconds, imperceivable during the day but could just make it out at night. Oh, and I never had any thermal issues. I theorized that the new drivers were demanding more of my 3090ti and since I hadn't upgraded my PSU when I went to the 3090ti, the power demand caused by the newer drivers was making the voltage unstable. I was also running x1.78DL upscaling. I found I got less CTD with native resolution and locked at 58fps.

So, I went back to an older driver, 560.81, I used MSI Afterburner to underclock my GPU by 100mhz, undervolted from 1075mv to 975mv and dialed up the memory clock by 800mhz. I was running x2.00 resolution, TAA and running consistently with no more issues.

As I started using the newer drivers to take advantage of the newer DLSS, I started encountering the memory issues again with high VRAM usage and CTD when applying changes to the graphics setting menu in MSFS. I would start a flight with 65% VRAM usage and then as I got close to my TOD, it would creep up to almost 100%, that's 24GB on the RTX 3090ti. My FPS would stay good but panning became stuttery. With the newest driver, to get this under control, I had to in addition to the undervolting, use x1.78DL upscaling and run it with TAA and downscaled to 70% and lock my frames at 40fps. Seems to work ok but a few months ago my sim was killing it. I would fly leg after leg with no issues.

 

My ultimate solution will be:

Underclock and undervolt

Go back to 560-ish driver since I don't use DLSS. Looks bad and really buys me no extra FPS

Run x2.00DL resolution and TAA downscaled 70%

FPS locked at 40

 

Like I said, the newer drivers are allocating VRAM differently. I would check your usages, dial back FPS, and resolution if possible. if you aren't using DLSS, go back to the last driver that worked well and look at maybe undervolting and underclocking the GPU a bit if you still have issues.

11 hours ago, B777ER said:

I find TAA much crisper and easier on performance with frame gen on in DX12. So I reverted to previous driver and back to TAA.

This is the reality of DLSS4.  If you already have excellent IQ you won't see much of a diff, as in my case.  I have always used TAA w/ RenderScale at 1.5, AMD FID FX at 200, and GFE Details filter with its sharpening routine.  So right now, DLSS4 + DLSS is inferior overall to my baseline settings, as there is zero ghosting of glass cockpit characters with baseline.  I do now use DLSS4 + DLSS because it helps some with the wretched strobe/flicker I get when using FG in the 4090.  And this, because as we often are guilty of overloading our systems which for me was the addition of BATC tipped me over the edge of being able to use the superior IQ that comes from native rendering sans FG.  As much as I'm enjoying quality ATC I'm not certain it's worth having to abandon native rendering to do.  Maybe if n when MSFS improves ATC *enough* I can go back to that.  Also, traffic motion with BATC is less than great, whereas previously with FSLTL alone it was flawless.

I experienced black screen issues (with sound still running) regardless of the driver version. After more than a year, I concluded that FS 2020 "doesn't like" the clock variations of the graphics card when it enters automatic boost/overclock mode. I completely resolved the issue by fixing the clock using MSI Afterburner, setting it to the maximum nominal value before entering "turbo mode." Since then, I haven't had a single crash.

I have been having issues since updating to 572.16.  I am running MSFS 2024 only.  The sim will start as normal and I can start a career mode flight, but when I am on any final approach now the sim will crash to the desktop with no errors.  It is weird, it is only on any final approaches, the sim will pause a couple of times, then pause completely, then crash to the desktop.  I have not tried it with Free Flight mode yet. I am running a RTX 4080 Super with 64gb of system RAM and Win11

No issues prior to updating the drivers last week.

On 2/4/2025 at 6:54 AM, stewartg00 said:

I have been having issues since updating to 572.16.  I am running MSFS 2024 only.  The sim will start as normal and I can start a career mode flight, but when I am on any final approach now the sim will crash to the desktop with no errors.  It is weird, it is only on any final approaches, the sim will pause a couple of times, then pause completely, then crash to the desktop.  I have not tried it with Free Flight mode yet. I am running a RTX 4080 Super with 64gb of system RAM and Win11

No issues prior to updating the drivers last week.

I took a day off from the sim and the frustrations.  I logged back in today and no issues no with my first career mission, sim did not crash.  No changes to my computer with any updates with the system and Nvidia drivers.

On 2/5/2025 at 12:54 PM, stewartg00 said:

I took a day off from the sim and the frustrations.  I logged back in today and no issues no with my first career mission, sim did not crash.  No changes to my computer with any updates with the system and Nvidia drivers.

Use MSI afterburner to underclock and undervolt your GPU a touch. I had same exact symptoms. There are a couple good tutorials on youtube. Worked wonders for me with no loss of performance and cooler GPU temps. 

On 2/2/2025 at 12:39 PM, jmalfatti_BR said:

I experienced black screen issues (with sound still running) regardless of the driver version. After more than a year, I concluded that FS 2020 "doesn't like" the clock variations of the graphics card when it enters automatic boost/overclock mode. I completely resolved the issue by fixing the clock using MSI Afterburner, setting it to the maximum nominal value before entering "turbo mode." Since then, I haven't had a single crash.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I underclocked and undervolted and CTDs went away. Before that, it seemed CTDs got worse with every new driver.

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