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WinWing 737 FMC & PMDG -700 Incompatible

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1 hour ago, Snuffleupagus said:

Their product page does state, word for word, “any 737 aircraft from any game or professional simulation software running on the Windows platform”.

No, mate 

 

737-800 for msfs... 

 

 

I'm away from the PC, so double check. 

 

PFP 3N Platform Compatibility Schedule and click there 

 

PMDG 737-800 Supported -

Official 737 Upcoming February 07, 2025

iFly 737 MAX 8 Upcoming February 24, 2025

X-Plane12 Official 737-800 Upcoming February 12, 2025

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  • Riddlesdenlad
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    I'm sure I've read somewhere that there's an active group of genius's that create profiles for Winwing devices so that you can use Mobiflight to get them working. With any luck they'll come through wh

  • cloudhopper3
    cloudhopper3

    After receiving my PFP today, I am really disappointed to learn of the incompatibility.  The hardware is beautiful, but definitely not a great first purchase impression of WinWing.  It appears that it

  • Snuffleupagus
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    Without the need to click on any small hidden buttons, their product page in their biggest font size on that page literally states: Streaming Display Mode displays PFP 3N (Panel of Flight Plan) d

There is conflicting information on their website for sure.

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4 hours ago, rutrA said:

No, mate 

737-800 for msfs... 

I'm away from the PC, so double check. 

PFP 3N Platform Compatibility Schedule and click there 

PMDG 737-800 Supported -

Official 737 Upcoming February 07, 2025

iFly 737 MAX 8 Upcoming February 24, 2025

X-Plane12 Official 737-800 Upcoming February 12, 2025

Without the need to click on any small hidden buttons, their product page in their biggest font size on that page literally states:

Streaming Display Mode displays PFP 3N (Panel of Flight Plan) data of any 737 aircraft from any game or professional simulation software running on the Windows platform, syncing in real-time with aircraft module data.


And that is a straight copy and paste from their product page.

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After receiving my PFP today, I am really disappointed to learn of the incompatibility.  The hardware is beautiful, but definitely not a great first purchase impression of WinWing.  It appears that it simply needs a kay mapping file.  As was said earlier, difficult to imagine that the three 737 sim variants have unique I/O interfaces... the differences in FMS functionality would be addressed in the PDMG code...  We just need to map the keys to the corresponding functions in the game, and interpret the ASCII bytes being sent to the display...  how hard could it be?

    

On 2/5/2025 at 9:55 PM, pilotman2 said:

I tried adding 'PMDG 737-00': [47925, 47933],'PMDG 737-900': [47925, 47933]

Here's the English translation:

There are at least a couple more files that mention PMDG:

  • mainsrc\EnvironmentCheck\Configs\MSFS2020Config.js
  • mainsrc\GamePresets\msfs2020GamePresets.js

For example, one of them has this function: MSFS2020GamePreset.traverseDirectorySync = ({ directoryPath }) => { let resultPath = '' if (fs.lstatSync(directoryPath).isDirectory()) { const files = fs.readdirSync(directoryPath) files.forEach(item => { const fullPath = path.join(directoryPath, item); // Check if it's a directory if (fs.lstatSync(fullPath).isDirectory()) { // If folder name contains 'pmdg-aircraft-738' if (item.includes('pmdg-aircraft-738')) { const workFilePath = path.join(fullPath, 'work', '737_Options.ini'); where you can directly add if (item.includes('pmdg-aircraft-738') || item.includes('pmdg-aircraft-737'))

Basically, wherever I saw it I changed it, packed it back, but it doesn't work and crashes with an error: The specified module could not be found. bla bla electron/js2/asar.js:140:31
I'm not familiar with this framework and this approach. Maybe I'm not packaging it correctly.

Edited by sectortll

Nobody has figured this out yet, right? Sitting unused on my desk as a result.

2 hours ago, mspencer said:

Nobody has figured this out yet, right? Sitting unused on my desk as a result.

If you have the Complete Edition of Spad.Next, the current beta has it working with all the PMDG aircraft.   I think MobiFlight has it working as well but without the screen.  Spad has the screen working as well.

 

 

1 hour ago, RandomShadow said:

If you have the Complete Edition of Spad.Next, the current beta has it working with all the PMDG aircraft.   I think MobiFlight has it working as well but without the screen.  Spad has the screen working as well.

Might finally be time to pay the piper…

MobiFlight is still working out the displays I think, so far only on the Airbus I believe. 

Edited by mspencer

On 2/15/2025 at 5:22 PM, RandomShadow said:

If you have the Complete Edition of Spad.Next, the current beta has it working with all the PMDG aircraft.   I think MobiFlight has it working as well but without the screen.  Spad has the screen working as well.

question.  I have been waiting for spad support.  I'm a spad complete user as well.  Do I need to install the winwing app to change the font or will spad handle that now?  I thought I saw in the spad release notes font support is included.  thanks. 

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3 hours ago, micstatic said:

question.  I have been waiting for spad support.  I'm a spad complete user as well.  Do I need to install the winwing app to change the font or will spad handle that now?  I thought I saw in the spad release notes font support is included.  thanks. 

I haven't tried to change the font as I'm fine with how it looks on the PFP 3N using Spad.  I did read in the release notes that it is an option though.    But from everything I've read, you can't run the SimAppPro at all while using Spad so I've completely uninstalled it.

Edited by RandomShadow

 

 

On 2/15/2025 at 4:22 PM, RandomShadow said:

If you have the Complete Edition of Spad.Next, the current beta has it working with all the PMDG aircraft.   I think MobiFlight has it working as well but without the screen.  Spad has the screen working as well.

Is there any info on how to set this up through SPAD? Best place to look on the website or Discord?

Willing to take the plunge into SPAD.next to get this thing working on the 737 and/or 739

7 hours ago, DieselEngine said:

Is there any info on how to set this up through SPAD? Best place to look on the website or Discord?

Willing to take the plunge into SPAD.next to get this thing working on the 737 and/or 739

No, there is no written docs on how to set it up last time I checked.  Their Discord server would be the best place for info though.  If you've never used Spad before, there could be a huge learning curve so be prepared.   That being said, once you purchase the Complete Edition you have to use the beta branch of the software to get the CDU/MCDU support.  You then have to enable WinWing device support.  You can find both the Beta branch and devices in settings.  Finally, you should see the CDU in the list and from there, you'd click on the device in the Spad GUI and then the "Online Snippet" button to search for an aircraft profile that has been shared by the community.  I don't recall which one I used but there were a few of them to choice from. 

Please note that I'm kind of simplifying the process a bit and going off memory.  I'm not on my sim computer right now. 

Edited by RandomShadow

 

 

13 hours ago, RandomShadow said:

No, there is no written docs on how to set it up last time I checked.  Their Discord server would be the best place for info though.  If you've never used Spad before, there could be a huge learning curve so be prepared.   That being said, once you purchase the Complete Edition you have to use the beta branch of the software to get the CDU/MCDU support.  You then have to enable WinWing device support.  You can find both the Beta branch and devices in settings.  Finally, you should see the CDU in the list and from there, you'd click on the device in the Spad GUI and then the "Online Snippet" button to search for an aircraft profile that has been shared by the community.  I don't recall which one I used but there were a few of them to choice from. 

Please note that I'm kind of simplifying the process a bit and going off memory.  I'm not on my sim computer right now. 

Thank you for the reply.

I ended up just going for it last night and got a copy of the Complete Edition. Note for others: it is part of the BETA build and not available through the 14-day trial.

I got it working by following the tutorial for another Boeing FMC they had a youtube tutorial for. The process was the same as you described. 

It worked flawlessly on a 3 hour flight with the PMDG 737-700. Impressive work. 

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