February 13, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, SN737 said: Ok I set it with your value, the difference I'm noticing is that when I release the trim button now the wheel keeps rolling for a second which did not happen with msfs elev trim assignmet. yes, try 20.0 or 20,1 Edited February 13, 20251 yr by LRBS 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
February 13, 20251 yr On 2/12/2025 at 8:10 AM, Michael Moe said: Hi, after all this years - how do you manage trim in these aircrafts ? I still dont get it why a small adjustment feels like rollercoaster A2A Comanche is really something else MSFS2020 btw - hopefully MS2024 feels better Thanks Michael Moe Honestly, I'm trying to figure out what you mean. I don't find it harder to trim than other aircraft in msfs (ifly included).
February 13, 20251 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Kevin_28 said: Honestly, I'm trying to figure out what you mean. I don't find it harder to trim than other aircraft in msfs (ifly included). Read the rather qualified answers along 😉 Piece Michael Moe Michael Moe
February 13, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, LRBS said: yes, try 20.0 or 20,1 Thanks very much, finally I've set it, with your value and through FSUIPC's select for FS control, Elev Trim Dn. Which doesn't have that post release delay. I can't tell the difference though, setting it like this or as I had it before through msfs control options, elevator trim down (nose down), elevator trim up (nose up). But I appreciate your help anyways. SN737
February 13, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, Michael Moe said: Read the rather qualified answers along 😉 Piece Michael Moe Can you point me to what specifically means the pmdg stabilizer is too sensitive compared to others? I've never seen rollercoaster behavior when trimming. Can you take a video and show me how that looks? Edit: It could be that I just naturally don't make prolonged adjustments to trim and I just make small adjustments out of habit. Edited February 13, 20251 yr by Kevin_28
February 13, 20251 yr Author 10 minutes ago, Kevin_28 said: Can you point me to what specifically means the pmdg stabilizer is too sensitive compared to others? I've never seen rollercoaster behavior when trimming. Can you take a video and show me how that looks? Edit: It could be that I just naturally don't make prolonged adjustments to trim and I just make small adjustments out of habit. Well trimming it out is really a pain. One click on my yoke and 2 seconds later i can have +-400-800 feet per minut. There is an instruction to use FSUIPC or the .cfg file to lower the senstivity . I will try it out. If you have used A2A Comanche you will know the differents . Even the NGXU in P3D is way more forgiven Michael Moe Edited February 13, 20251 yr by Michael Moe Michael Moe
February 13, 20251 yr Just now, Michael Moe said: Well trimming it out is really a pain. One click on my yoke and 2 seconds later i can have +-400-800 feet per minut. There is an instruction to use FSUIPC or the .cdg file to lower the senstivity . I will try it out. If you have used A2A Comanche you will know the differents . Even the NGXU in P3D is way more forgiven Michael Moe Interesting. I'll try that out and see. I don't have the a2a unfortunately. I do know that trimming in msfs in general has been more temperamental than other sims across most aircraft. I remember that being a common complaint from other rw pilots.
February 14, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Michael Moe said: Well trimming it out is really a pain. One click on my yoke and 2 seconds later i can have +-400-800 feet per minut. There is an instruction to use FSUIPC or the .cfg file to lower the senstivity . I will try it out. If you have used A2A Comanche you will know the differents . Even the NGXU in P3D is way more forgiven Michael Moe Michael, did you sort it out? 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
February 14, 20251 yr Author 5 hours ago, LRBS said: Michael, did you sort it out? Sorry didnt have the time yesterday afterall so no. Really wouid here what people otherwise have done. I guess it goes for the PMDG 777 as well. Michael Moe Michael Moe
February 14, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Michael Moe said: Sorry didnt have the time yesterday afterall so no. Really wouid here what people otherwise have done. I guess it goes for the PMDG 777 as well. Michael Moe I understand. Let us know; we should be able to fix it on the 737. On the 777, they screwed up that FBW trim system and it can't be fixed; it's in their code. 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
February 14, 20251 yr Author 4 hours ago, LRBS said: I understand. Let us know; we should be able to fix it on the 737. On the 777, they screwed up that FBW trim system and it can't be fixed; it's in their code. Hmm , thanks I am at lost lost somehow with the PMDG . At first i suspected every little other USB input but i am out of time. Michael Moe Michael Moe
February 15, 20251 yr On 2/14/2025 at 3:07 PM, LRBS said: I understand. Let us know; we should be able to fix it on the 737. On the 777, they screwed up that FBW trim system and it can't be fixed; it's in their code. So what do you think is screwed up in the FBW Trim system?
February 15, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Andre92 said: So what do you think is screwed up in the FBW Trim system? So the question is, when did you last fly the real airplane? Are you type-rated in equipment? If so, you should spot the issues right away. As an example, the last time I flew the real 777 was about 7 or 8 years ago for about 1 1/2 years. The bottom line is that they are somewhere 1/2 way where they should be. It's not right for sure; they can get it right with minor tweaking. Edited February 15, 20251 yr by LRBS 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
February 22, 20251 yr On 2/15/2025 at 8:26 PM, LRBS said: So the question is, when did you last fly the real airplane? Are you type-rated in equipment? If so, you should spot the issues right away. As an example, the last time I flew the real 777 was about 7 or 8 years ago for about 1 1/2 years. The bottom line is that they are somewhere 1/2 way where they should be. It's not right for sure; they can get it right with minor tweaking. So what do i have to do with this? I asked what you think is wrong with it? And as a matter of fact, yes i am currently typerated and flying the B77F for a living. That is also why i prefer to fly the PMDG 737. I’ve never flown the 737 in real life, and it probably isn’t perfect either. But to me the 737 feels nice to fly and i’m having a lot of fun with it. When you actually fly the real plane, you notice everything that is not feeling quite right (what do you expect from a 90$ addon?) and it breaks the immersion. Kind Regards, André
February 23, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Andre92 said: So what do i have to do with this? I asked what you think is wrong with it? And as a matter of fact, yes i am currently typerated and flying the B77F for a living. That is also why i prefer to fly the PMDG 737. I’ve never flown the 737 in real life, and it probably isn’t perfect either. But to me the 737 feels nice to fly and i’m having a lot of fun with it. When you actually fly the real plane, you notice everything that is not feeling quite right (what do you expect from a 90$ addon?) and it breaks the immersion. Kind Regards, André Considering that you fly for a living the 777, I expected you to see the significant issues with the PMDG 777's trim and fly-by-wire systems in this flight simulator. It should be noted that many of us, the real 777 pilots, have complained about these issues and brought them to the PMDG attention. PMDG 777 didn't capture the C*u Law well. The auto-trimming behavior that occurs with elevator input is incorrect. Trim that is very sensitive leads to pitch oscillations. Even though it was about seven years ago, I vividly remember the airplane being very stable. And those are just a few of the issues among others. I am glad to hear that the 737 brings you joy; unfortunately, even that one has issues with the AP, FD, and LNAV, and it is quite light in flight controls feel. 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
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