3 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

This has to be an internet forum first. Someone makes a statement that doesn't sound plausible or reasonable at all. In fact the poster doesn't even believe it themselves and qualifies there wild assertion with don't hold me to this. When asked for clarification but sensing that they have painted themselves into a corner, they simply reply that the information backing up their claim is all over the internet. And instead of sharing further details to back up there claims on a forum where people come to learn, they just say  "Google it and you will prove me right". I think if the information backing up your claim existed, you would have posted it.

I’ll say it again…Google it do your own research. I’ve painted the perfect picture of who I’m dealing with and ohhhh boy can I tell you haven’t been flight simming for too long. 
 

Here I’ll help you:

- there’s plenty of real life pilots on here, some even fly 777s for a living 👀

-We have great add ons, that replicate the real plane but can never be 100% accurate, it’s a desktop sim, level D simulators even get it wrong.

- “simcrafts” we just call them addon aircraft 

- the speed trim on the pmdg777 and how it reacts with the FBW system isn’t exactly as in real life.

- a lot of us have circles or friends that fly certain planes IRL and we just throw a question out in the group chat and get an answer, in this instance I didn’t have to 😉

- Captain Sim is the most accurate developer of the 777. Ok this is a lie. 

Hope this helps.

 

Edited May 27, 20251 yr by rick celik

7 minutes ago, rick celik said:

Google it do your own research. I’ve painted the perfect picture of who I’m dealing with and ohhhh boy can I tell you haven’t been flight simming for too long. 

You are deflecting. When you resort to insults you have lost the argument. You just can't make wild assertions quailified with "don't hold me to this". What if I said Airbus planes are made by Boeing and If you don't believe me, go Google it and you will prove me right. Sounds kind of ridiculous huh? As a commercial member, I sure hope that the way you act on this forum gets you more business.

Edited May 27, 20251 yr by alanw2005

2 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

You are deflecting. When you resort to insults you have lost the argument. You just can't make wild assertions quailified with "don't hold me to this". What if I said Airbus planes are made by Boeing and If you don't believe me, go Google it and you will prove me right. Sounds kind of ridiculous huh?

You’re over thinking it, don’t get upset it’s ok, it’s just a flight sim forum. I don’t think I insulted you, more like educated you and saved you from any future embarrassment.

4 minutes ago, rick celik said:

You’re over thinking it, don’t get upset it’s ok, it’s just a flight sim forum. I don’t think I insulted you, more like educated you and saved you from any future embarrassment.

It would be nice to make crazy comments, not be able to back them up and then not get emabarrased when backed into a corner. But hey, you said don't hold me to this and I definitely won't. BTW, I edited my last comment. Please re-read it so that you can respond. I added: "As a commercial member, I sure hope that the way you act on this forum gets you more business."

Edited May 27, 20251 yr by alanw2005

54 minutes ago, rick celik said:

But I’ll give you a break you seem new to the hobby based on saying you only bought the 777 twice, ask the rest of us how many times we bought it.

Kids these days.

It's posts like these that give Avsim a bad name. "Kids these" days", really dude?
"ask the rest of us how many times we bought it." -> This is not the brag you think it is.

There is nothing wrong with a guy disagreeing with ur opinion.

28 minutes ago, rick celik said:

www.google.com 

Google is your best friend. It’s also great for finding local flight schools that offer introductory flights. Book it.Attend it. Don’t neglect it. 

How about you actually explain your own opinion instead of deflecting with silly comments like this. Seriously this is not how discussions are supposed to work right?

1 minute ago, alanw2005 said:

It would be nice to make crazy comments, not be able to back them up and then not get emabarrased when backed into a corner. But hey, you said don't hold me to this and I definitely won't. BTW, I edited my last comment. Please re-read it so that you can respond.

I’m not backed up anywhere 😂 im laughing at you. It’s funny to me. But yes please go google and read for yourself and I’m sure you already have but won’t admit the findings. Anyway, don’t put your hand up and say you can land the plane kid. 
 

I think we’ve hijacked the thread enough. Get to goooooooglin 

14 minutes ago, rick celik said:

I’ll say it again…Google it do your own research. I’ve painted the perfect picture of who I’m dealing with and ohhhh boy can I tell you haven’t been flight simming for too long. 
 

Here I’ll help you:

- there’s plenty of real life pilots on here, some even fly 777s for a living 👀

-We have great add ons, that replicate the real plane but can never be 100% accurate, it’s a desktop sim, level D simulators even get it wrong.

- “simcrafts” we just call them addon aircraft 

- the speed trim on the pmdg777 and how it reacts with the FBW system isn’t exactly as in real life.

- a lot of us have circles or friends that fly certain planes IRL and we just throw a question out in the group chat and get an answer, in this instance I didn’t have to 😉

- Captain Sim is the most accurate developer of the 777. Ok this is a lie. 

Hope this helps.

 

Rick, I think you have painted a perfect picture of who I am dealing with and I thank you for that. I hope your antics get you more business as a commercial member. Happy to have helped you out.

19 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Let it go Bob its over with. Crazy fact some lead developer on FSL had worked for PMDG in the past your favorite company and Matias Kok jump ship from Aerosoft to join PMDG. Lets not throw stones.

Personally I think the whole malware situation with FSL was really bad and consumer should not let things like that slide. So I'd say its fair to bring that up

2 minutes ago, UltimateAntic said:

It's posts like these that give Avsim a bad name. "Kids these" days", really dude?
"ask the rest of us how many times we bought it." -> This is not the brag you think it is.

There is nothing wrong with a guy disagreeing with ur opinion.

How about you actually explain your own opinion instead of deflecting with silly comments like this. Seriously this is not how discussions are supposed to work right?

Ohhhhh believe me, definitely not bragginnnnnn about that my guy. 
 

How about he just googles it and finds it? It’s not up to me to do his research he’s so passionate about for him.

52 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

So easy that you can't find the reference that you are quoting? So you are now retracting your "don't hold me to this" statement. You are now saying it is fact? I don't believe it exists so no need for me to search, especially when you say don't hold me to this. Occam's Razor says 2 good companies won't get it wrong.

  Dont feed the trolls.....Its, a game...There I said it....

2 minutes ago, rick celik said:

I’m not backed up anywhere 😂 im laughing at you. It’s funny to me. But yes please go google and read for yourself and I’m sure you already have but won’t admit the findings. Anyway, don’t put your hand up and say you can land the plane kid. 
 

I think we’ve hijacked the thread enough. Get to goooooooglin 

Rick, saying something you can't, back up and then replying with get googling doesn't sound weak to you? 

Just now, Delta111 said:

  Dont feed the trolls.....Its, a game...There I said it....

Plenty of discussions about the speed trim the 777 isn’t correct, it’s not trolling. Just because I don’t want to paste 6 different forum threads in here, doesn’t mean I’m trolling. Go read all my other posts on threads, I’ve been here long enough, but when someone’s too lazy to do their own research and continue to argue, that’s another story.

 

when he got smart after the first few comments, I done my research and found what I was looking for. I won’t do it for him. Don’t get too emotional. 

2 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

Rick, saying something you can't, back up and then replying with get googling doesn't sound weak to you? 

No I just refuse to do your research for you, don’t be lazy. 
 

After the first few comments, I googled it, found the answers I was looking for and you can do the same. It’s all there. 

4 minutes ago, rick celik said:

Plenty of discussions about the speed trim the 777 isn’t correct, it’s not trolling. Just because I don’t want to paste 6 different forum threads in here, doesn’t mean I’m trolling. Go read all my other posts on threads, I’ve been here long enough, but when someone’s too lazy to do their own research and continue to argue, that’s another story.

 

when he got smart after the first few comments, I done my research and found what I was looking for. I won’t do it for him. Don’t get too emotional. 

You have an interesting way to share information. Make statements without basis and then tell everyone Google says you are right. Will try that on some other forums. Wish me luck, okay?

Edited May 27, 20251 yr by alanw2005

2 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

You have an interesting way to share information. Make statements without basis and then tell everyone Google says you are right. Will try that on some other forums.

I constantly share information, but if you get smart saying “NO I WONT HOLD YOU TO IT” after my initial comment advising you ,then saying because you have the 777 on msfs and xplane and that to you is enough to say it’s like in real life, then no I won’t spoon food it to you.

interesting way you think the world works my guy.

Edited May 27, 20251 yr by rick celik