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A week is enough to make XP12 my sim of choice.

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On 5/29/2025 at 1:34 AM, pscharff said:

And there is one point that is really important to me – the simplicity of the installation of addons – simply copy and paste into the XP12 folder.😉

If you are interested in modifying Airports/Scenery yourself, the XPlane scenery editor, W.E.D. , is also extremely simple and straitforward to use. I found the MSFS scenery editor extemely complex and convoluted, but WED is just the opposite. You can have your scenery in the sim in just a click or two! I followed numerous video tutorials for MSFS and I still have yet to create a successful scenery.

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    Patric……..I could not agree with you more on what you say, I too am keeping my eye on fs24, I fire it up for an hour or so and then I lose interest and keep going back to XP12, and thus as been going

3 minutes ago, b1bmsgt said:

If you are interested in modifying Airports/Scenery yourself, the XPlane scenery editor, W.E.D. , is also extremely simple and straitforward to use. I found the MSFS scenery editor extemely complex and convoluted, but WED is just the opposite. You can have your scenery in the sim in just a click or two! I followed numerous video tutorials for MSFS and I still have yet to create a successful scenery.

Do you know if it is possible with WED to add parking spots at a payware airport?  I have KIAD and they did not place any parking at the Signature FBO.  

Eric

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Sorry, but I've never tried that. I'll look later today and report back.

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37 minutes ago, b1bmsgt said:

If you are interested in modifying Airports/Scenery yourself, the XPlane scenery editor, W.E.D. , is also extremely simple and straitforward to use. I found the MSFS scenery editor extemely complex and convoluted, but WED is just the opposite. You can have your scenery in the sim in just a click or two! I followed numerous video tutorials for MSFS and I still have yet to create a successful scenery.

Thanks for the info. So far i haven't thought about editing sceneries by myself. Perhaps I will take a look at the editor in the future.😉

Patric

35 minutes ago, b1bmsgt said:

Sorry, but I've never tried that. I'll look later today and report back.

Took a quick look and I don't see any way to open them in the editor. Copyright issues, I assume...

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2 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

Took a quick look and I don't see any way to open them in the editor. Copyright issues, I assume...

You should be able to do this - and if you don´t redistribute the payware airport, you should be able to do to it whatever you want.

To open an airport in WED, you need the "wed work-file", usually it is called "earth.xml", this is what WED can read (but X-Plane can´t). When you are done working on your airport, you click on "export airport", this creates the files that X-Plane can read (but WED can´t).

So payware devs usually DELETE this .xml file when they are done, because it is fairly big and also they don´t see why people would need to open their airports.

There is one workaround, though. You can fire up WED and use the FILE/ADVANCED menu point and then click IMPORT SCENERY. This will make WED import the apt.dat and relevant .dsf files (the ones that X-Plane normally reads) and you can start editing your airport in WED.

2 hours ago, Litjan said:

and you can start editing your airport in WED.

Hey, thanks for stepping in! I'm relatively new using WED, although I've been flying XP on and off since XP9! I have only worked on default airports which you just download from the Scenery Gateway. I just tried as you suggested and it works, although I had to zoom the map out and go find the airport myself. This was easy, though, so not a big deal. 

Hope this works for you Flic1

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Former B-1B Crew Chief / Flightline Maintenance Expediter

Former Learjet Corp. Quality Inspector

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3 hours ago, Litjan said:

There is one workaround, though. You can fire up WED and use the FILE/ADVANCED menu point and then click IMPORT SCENERY. This will make WED import the apt.dat and relevant .dsf files (the ones that X-Plane normally reads) and you can start editing your airport in WED.

Thanks for the info! I tried this but when click on File/Advanced, everything including Import Scenery is greyed out and not clickable.

Eric

i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11

1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

Thanks for the info! I tried this but when click on File/Advanced, everything including Import Scenery is greyed out and not clickable.

You need to make sure wed is pointed to correct folder. Create new folder with name. I usually use fact- capetown. Open folder than you should have option to import from gateway. You must save than export to last xp12ver for it to show.

Right - in the FILE menu you need to use the CHOOSE X-PLANE FOLDER option to let WED know where X-Plane 12 is located. It will then list all the scenery it can find in the /Custom Scenery folder, your payware airport should be there. Then you click that, hit OPEN SCENERY PACKAGE and then - after you are greeted with an empty window, go through the import scenery process.

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