Steam VR drivers to be released 29 August according to the VR Flight Sim Guy:

How good is this?  I've been using the old W11 version and praying they weren't going to update me by force, now it sounds like it will be all good.

 

Glad I didn't throw mine away and/or sold it.  It's good to have options.  It's a doubled edged sward for me because on one hand the G2 performs well in all scenarios but looks inferior to the CL.  In turn the CL on my system can't perform well with add-on scenery present so I'm relegated to fighter/warbird planes or GA aircraft flying away from major cities where I have add-on airports/scenery installed.  Haven't went back to look at the G2 with the new drivers. One day I will.  Holding out hope I figure something out with the CL.  It's just good to know when I get fed up there's an option.  One thing to remember you have to dial up the scenery settings in FS to get the G2 to look decent where as the CL you dial things down because the headset has better optical lenses.😐 

3 hours ago, Dillon said:

Glad I didn't throw mine away and/or sold it.  It's good to have options.  It's a doubled edged sward for me because on one hand the G2 performs well in all scenarios but looks inferior to the CL.  In turn the CL on my system can't perform well with add-on scenery present so I'm relegated to fighter/warbird planes or GA aircraft flying away from major cities where I have add-on airports/scenery installed.  Haven't went back to look at the G2 with the new drivers. One day I will.  Holding out hope I figure something out with the CL.  It's just good to know when I get fed up there's an option.  One thing to remember you have to dial up the scenery settings in FS to get the G2 to look decent where as the CL you dial things down because the headset has better optical lenses.😐 

Hello Dillon, would you say the difference is huge in visuals between the two?

38 minutes ago, tamsini said:

Hello Dillon, would you say the difference is huge in visuals between the two?

Yes, that's the case.😐

2 hours ago, Dillon said:

Yes, that's the case.😐

So unhappy to hear that...

19 hours ago, Dillon said:

Yes, that's the case.

totally agree. otherwise, why would we HP G2 owners have spent another $ 1.000 to upgrade to a CrystalLight? just check out the major VR youtubers, like MRTV etc.

https://www.youtube.com/@mixedrealityTV

Edited August 23, 2025Aug 23 by turbomax

17 hours ago, tamsini said:

So unhappy to hear that...

Let me be clear.  Again, you have to up your graphics settings in MSFS to compensate for the G2's shortcomings (it's older technology) but it's not terrible.  Looking in the distance is grainier, it has a smaller sweet spot but very clear in its sweet spot.  The G2 is more than enough for those on a budget.  The CL is very clear looking in the distance and has a larger sweet spot.  You run your MSFS graphics settings lower which helps with performance, but the CL has it's issues too.  Here's my findings that I can't get around  now:

1. The G2 is better all-around for MSFS despite what you have installed concerning scenery add-ons and it feels lighter on your head.  

2. The CL is great until you load the sim up with add-on scenery.  It gets jittery to a point it's not worth using with Garmin equipped aircraft over areas with scenery add-ons installed.  I'm relegated to default MSFS scenery and none Garmin aircraft when using the headset.

I've went back to 2D😔 for most of my flying do to the superior clarity of MSFS both headsets can't achieve (my eyes are better for it considering the jittery effect hurts my equilibrium after using the headset🫣).  I can't go back to the G2's lower quality display but I may take it out as some point just to take look much like we do with older versions of FS.  

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

The G2 is better all-around for MSFS

no way. it uses cheap fresnel lenses, causing color aberrations along edges like all fresnel lenses do.

"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super" doesn't cut it for the Pimax Crystal. but that's not the Crystals's fault.

Edited August 23, 2025Aug 23 by turbomax

You choose, smooth lower resolution of G2 with really decent resolution and you can fly many hours continuously in VR, or the non-smooth jittery heavy CL with more resolution though you need to stop flying in VR, up to you and your preferences, no one is better than the other.

4 hours ago, peloto said:

no one is better than the other.

what?

- the CL is clearly much better than the HP G2 (I have both)

- the RTX 4090 is much better suited for the CL than a RTX 4070.

https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=HdfjN_0UlPY&h2=6nd6PhR_A

HP: 2160x2160 per-eye

CL: 2880x2880 per-eye

 

HP: Refresh Rate90

CL: Hz120 Hz, 90 Hz, 72 Hz, 60 Hz modes available

you can always reduce resolution etc. if you want to with a Crystal Light, you are not forced to run it at its default higher resolution, you can always reduce your settings down to the HP G2 and it will still look much better (aspheric lenses instead of cheap fresnel). my GPU/CPU combo runs very smooth in VR. it's all a matter of finding the best combination of settings for a given VR headset's native resolution and fps you wan to achieve. has always been like that,  be it 2D or VR.

Edited August 23, 2025Aug 23 by turbomax

Clearly, with all these comments, I'm looking forward to see how I'll like getting back into VR with the G2. Nothing to lose at this point.

18 hours ago, turbomax said:

what?

- the CL is clearly much better than the HP G2 (I have both)

- the RTX 4090 is much better suited for the CL than a RTX 4070.

People with 4090's have been reporting the same or similar issues I'm having with my card with the CL. Pimax needs to refine the drivers using the methodology most developers use and that's taking into account the lowest denominator. Case in point Asobo with the XBOX.  Ensuring good performance on the XBOX equates to stellar performance on the PC now everyone is happy for the most part compared to what we had with previous versions of Flight Simulator (namely FSX). 

The CL runs fine for me with no add-on scenery so clearly my card can handle it.  Most can't afford $1500 for a video card alone.  That's not good for the advancement of VR.  The more VR becomes affordable for people with limited means the quicker it becomes the standard which is great for all of us.  

I remember the good old G2 days... it was great and enjoyed it with my 4090... since getting the PCL, it has been a fiddling with settings to get this smooth and acceptable...my wife treated me to a 5090 just last week and in running the thing at 100% native resolution in TAA mode is unreal... the clarity is astonishing... i wish all VR users could have this somehow... what a platform that would be!

How much average fps in TAA 100% in CL do you achieve now with the 5090?, with wobbles with some sort of frame generation?

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5 hours ago, vonduck said:

it has been a fiddling with settings to get this smooth and acceptable...

This is the problem, I don´t go years back again to those really "terrible" days, yes the G2 sweet-spot is small, though I don´t mind, I don´t feel that is a low resolution, and with 60fps in MSFS-AutoFPS most of the time 100% resolution and no frame generators, and now I don´t want less of 60fps-60Hz.

Even in my two monitors 24"-1080p 27"-1440p, I can watch the pixels if I seek them, the G2 resolution for me is almost the same to the 24"-1080p, not bad at all, even I have been playing these days with Praydog UEVR the game "Little Nightmares" for 4€ haha (I have to go now for the second part haha), in an approx. 80" fake TV in front, and it has an incredible good definition (and doing a 4k resolution in the Nvidia driver to select in the game that resolution to the 1440p monitor), like a 4k enormous TV in front in comparison, where you can watch the pixels also if you seek them if you are 2 meter away.

And very comfy for hours and hours continuously (I have been many days around 8 hours haha), only clean it if you want the sweat of the silicon protection that I bought for the gasket, and since a pair of years also I did 5-5 holes left-right up the gasket and another 5-5 down, and very comfortable in temperature.

2 hours ago, peloto said:

How much average fps in TAA 100% in CL do you achieve now with the 5090?, with wobbles with some sort of frame generation?

Thats something i haven't yet checked... it was very smooth is what i can say..as for wobbles with FG, none form what i can see..im very susceptible to motion sickness so anything like that would make me ill quickly... but so far so good...ive been flat out IRL so haven't done a heap of testing so will get onto that soon and report back..