For fs2024, is it possible for PSXT to use both aig and fstl models? Seeing as the md-11 is not available from AIG, it would be nice if PSXT could use both ai sources 

Of course it is! By default PSXT right in the GUI shows AIG, FSLTL and JF as the priority selection of aircraft to use. You really only need the MD11's from FSLTL, everything else x8+ is included with AIG.

 You can also customize your addon ai aircraft collection with PSXT. I use a hybrid collection of AIG along with the MD11's from FSLTL and then my own custom added liveries. 8000+ from AIG and another 14000 of my own (mostly GA and military plus some extra airline liveries not included with AIG).

Edited October 7, 2025Oct 7 by Dave_YVR

47 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

Of course it is! By default PSXT right in the GUI shows AIG, FSLTL and JF as the priority selection of aircraft to use. You really only need the MD11's from FSLTL, everything else x8+ is included with AIG.

 You can also customize your addon ai aircraft collection with PSXT. I use a hybrid collection of AIG along with the MD11's from FSLTL and then my own custom added liveries. 8000+ from AIG and another 14000 of my own (mostly GA and military plus some extra airline liveries not included with AIG).

Ok thanks. I've never used PSXT before, but given how broken sayintentions and beyondatc are (to be fair to them, they're still beta and hard at work). 

 

How does it work when it comes to trying to land at a busy airport and taxi around? Since it's live you can't really participate in ATC

3 hours ago, simsuper80 said:

How does it work when it comes to trying to land at a busy airport and taxi around? Since it's live you can't really participate in ATC

Basically, be your own ATC. Treat the traffic as simply eye candy. Just my opinion but I'll take accurate AI traffic movement over any of current ATC programs that work with AI traffic. They are all still too slow in moving traffic.

6 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Basically, be your own ATC. Treat the traffic as simply eye candy. Just my opinion but I'll take accurate AI traffic movement over any of current ATC programs that work with AI traffic. They are all still too slow in moving traffic.

I see, I was just curious about trying to land and taxing around.

15 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Of course it is! By default PSXT right in the GUI shows AIG, FSLTL and JF as the priority selection of aircraft to use. You really only need the MD11's from FSLTL, everything else x8+ is included with AIG.

 You can also customize your addon ai aircraft collection with PSXT. I use a hybrid collection of AIG along with the MD11's from FSLTL and then my own custom added liveries. 8000+ from AIG and another 14000 of my own (mostly GA and military plus some extra airline liveries not included with AIG).

Dave are the MD11's the only aircraft from FSLTL that aren't present with AIG? If that is the case then can I delete everything but the MD's in FSLTL's simobjects and effects directories?

12 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Basically, be your own ATC. Treat the traffic as simply eye candy. Just my opinion but I'll take accurate AI traffic movement over any of current ATC programs that work with AI traffic. They are all still too slow in moving traffic.

Just saw some videos on YouTube. Planes drifting on their rear landing gear as they turn😤😞. I assume this is still a thing?

3 hours ago, somiller said:

are the MD11's the only aircraft from FSLTL that aren't present with AIG?

Yes, I moved the MD11 over to my custom AI aircraft folder and then disabled the fsltl-traffic-base from being used in the sim and PSXT.

1 hour ago, simsuper80 said:

Planes drifting on their rear landing gear as they turn😤😞. I assume this is still a thing?

 It can be depending on where you are, but it's still better imo than watching an aircraft land then slowly exit or even spin around once or twice on the runway and then exit on a reverse taxiway and only then does the next departure get lined up etc or not get lined up at all because the next arrival is inside 8 miles final or what have you. It's all actual proper separation, something that the sim controlled ai knows nothing about.

 It's not perfect and does have it's glitches, but in overall airport operations it's so much better in every way. No need for coded airline parking, traffic parks where they do irl for the actual flight, not anywhere and everywhere.  

7 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

 It can be depending on where you are, but it's still better imo than watching an aircraft land then slowly exit or even spin around once or twice on the runway and then exit on a reverse taxiway and only then does the next departure get lined up etc or not get lined up at all because the next arrival is inside 8 miles final or what have you. It's all actual proper separation, something that the sim controlled ai knows nothing about.

 It's not perfect and does have it's glitches, but in overall airport operations it's so much better in every way. No need for coded airline parking, traffic parks where they do irl for the actual flight, not anywhere and everywhere.  

I'm guessing there's no way to fix it is there. I wish the program could do something with the delay it has, like somehow smoothing out the taxi turns and parking. Pretty immersion breaking when you see a plane taxi far into the gate and then back up 

4 hours ago, simsuper80 said:

 I wish the program could do something with the delay it has, like somehow smoothing out the taxi turns and parking. Pretty immersion breaking when you see a plane taxi far into the gate and then back up 

That is not related to the delay.
Most of the time, this is caused by the addon airport designer not correctly positioning the terminals and gates. The live aircraft are at their real-world positions; if that position does not align with the gate position in the addon, PSXT will slowly move them to their correct location (in the sim) at the gate . 

Edited October 8, 2025Oct 8 by kiek

17 hours ago, somiller said:

Dave are the MD11's the only aircraft from FSLTL that aren't present with AIG?

No, there are more:

FSLTL_GA_HTAI_P28A_ZZZZ
FSLTL_GA_C172_ZZZ
FSLTL_GA_BE36_ZZZ
FSLTL_GA_DR400_ZZZ
FSLTL_GA_DA40-NG_ZZZ

AIG includes the P28A, DA40 and C172 that are actual AI models. Those FSLTL models listed above are default Asobo models used as ai.

7 hours ago, kiek said:

That is not related to the delay.
Most of the time, this is caused by the addon airport designer not correctly positioning the terminals and gates. The live aircraft are at their real-world positions; if that position does not align with the gate position in the addon, PSXT will slowly move them to their correct location (in the sim) at the gate . 

Ok, and what about when aircraft touchdown well short of the runway? I'm sure that's an addon airport problem?

4 hours ago, simsuper80 said:

Ok, and what about when aircraft touchdown well short of the runway? I'm sure that's an addon airport problem?

Could very well be, or a QNH problem.

But I don't see an aircraft land very often way too short.

Edited October 8, 2025Oct 8 by kiek