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I Love Fenix But the BFU have made landings impossible

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On 10/15/2025 at 8:24 AM, Speedbird 217 said:

That’s nonsense. Config 3 is not standard for all Airbus types. My best friend used to fly the 320 series for a major airline and Flaps Full was standard, not Config 3.

Perhaps not standard, but as reported it will become standard....I have no idea really, just watching real pilots on YT saying. I find it smoother but more work thou....

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  • As others have said, most of us simmers turn it off. The crash detection hasn’t done any good in any of the flight sim releases. 

  • Speedbird193
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    That’s nonsense. Config 3 is not standard for all Airbus types. My best friend used to fly the 320 series for a major airline and Flaps Full was standard, not Config 3.

  • What is crashing? The game, the aircraft? Or do you get a black screen that you crashed your plane? If so, disable crash detection. It has no real purpose, because there is no crash physics in MS

Landed a RNAV manually full flaps, no problem here.

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

8 minutes ago, cyyzrwy24 said:

Perhaps not standard, but as reported it will become standard....I have no idea really, just watching real pilots on YT saying. I find it smoother but more work thou....

I’m not sure what is a standard, you land in config suitable to runway or ops . If there a way for company to safe money by exiting late or early pilot should handle smoothly landing with any flap config . The notion like one must learn how to land smoothly regardless of flap configuration .  

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On 10/14/2025 at 9:12 PM, lehbird said:

(My most resent flight said I landed at 228 FPS but it still crashed).

While very little emphasis should be placed on touchdown descent rate, if you hit anything at a closure rate of over 200 feet per second, you bet you crashed 😉.

A hard landing write up is partially a judgement call, with the guideline (for a 737) being that a touchdown descent rate up to 600 ft/min is acceptable at max landing weight.  A lighter aircraft can bear more, while an overweight landing may require a hard landing inspection at less.  But also, this descent rate is just a guideline for when pilots should consider a hard landing writeup.  Actual determination of required inspection will be made by pulling FOQA data and examining X, Y, and Z axis g at touchdown. 

Point is, for sim purposes, certainly up to around 400 or 500fpm at touchdown can be considered just fine.  Pilots like making smooth landings when conditions warrant, but you can't win them all and there are times that conditions emphatically do not warrant.  We don't train people to make smooth landings.  We train them to make safe landings.  If a pilot makes every landing of his career a solid crunch, but it's on-speed, on centerline, prior to LTP, and is the result of a stable approach, we are very happy.

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