I try not to be a whiner, but something just doesn't seem right. I have been flying FS for 30+ years and I have been landing all sorts of aircraft (including the Fenix prior to the BFU) with no issues. I may not grease them all, but I certainly don't crash. Now, after the BFU most everything ends in a crash. Sometime I even seem to land softly and it still ends in a crash.(My most resent flight said I landed at 228 FPS but it still crashed). I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but are they looking to make any adjustments?

Thanks,

Dave 

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by lehbird

What is crashing? The game, the aircraft? Or do you get a black screen that you crashed your plane?

If so, disable crash detection. It has no real purpose, because there is no crash physics in MSFS. I remember „crashing“ in FSX against invisible walls. That was the moment I turnend this feature off, it has never been realistic. You will know if you had crashed the plane without any text that tells you this information.

Seems to help start flare first then retard power levers to idle. Without more description or a video, it's hard to know what exactly happening for you in the landing process. I think since BFU it is less floaty but if you are right on speed I can't see how this would result in a crash scenario...also -200fpm would be generally considered a firm landing but I wouldn't think it is a crash. I think it's jus practicing timing, noticing the energy you are coming in with. If carrying more energy, you'll need to start your flare a little earlier and / or reduce throttle earlier, vice versa if low on energy state.

Here are a couple of examples in the Fenix with the BFU in 2020. As the aircraft realism increases and the realism gap decreases, the difficulty in piloting increases exponentially.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxKUhgy6P7VakY3qA3tK7_Q-A938TTCfVn?si=ZU1BAPr9EkXJ-RyV

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxU9gsq6BYkT88PsBmf1D2N3ubxmB3OgJp?si=XtTmf7on6mIjfg_V

200 fpm is perfectly acceptable and not a firm landing. 400+ is when you start getting into trouble. 
 

It’s far more important to touch down in the touch down zone and be stable for approach than be obsessed about single digit landing rates and floating half way across the runway or trimming the trees on short final to achieve both.

The BFU definitely changed the landing feel and from everything I read and heard, it’s now far more realistic. Every aircraft is different - I usually grease the 777 far more than the Fenix, even without trying to.

They’re very different in reality - I recommend watching the Cockpit Casual series on YouTube. These guys fly different jets around the globe all the time and hold multiple type ratings. He says he finds the 777 far easier to land than the Airbus and sometimes just can’t help but slam the Airbus in.

There are so many conditions influencing flare and landing rate - weight, wind, runway conditions, runway length, pure luck - just practice and try different things. Even then you will have good and bad landings and sometimes it’s just down to luck on that landing even if you did everything right.

I would turn off crash detection though - in all my years of flightsim I never found that to work very well and it causes far too many issues like colliding with invisible objects at airports, crashing when hitting a small bump on the taxiway or just doing other weird things.

I've found landing with Flap config 3 has helped smooth out my landings, although the approach is a little faster than full config, which makes sense.

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by Bunchy

I know I am guilty of not providing enough info here but in short, virtually every time I land any of the Fenix buses MS24 stops the AC on the runway and says "You crashed" even though I know the landing was fine and my ACARS confirms that. Maybe it is an issue with MS24 or a conflict between the two but it seems to have started after the BFU.

Do you have crash detection on in 2024? If so, turn it off. 

As others have said, most of us simmers turn it off. The crash detection hasn’t done any good in any of the flight sim releases. 

3 hours ago, Bunchy said:

I've found landing with Flap config 3 has helped smooth out my landings, although the approach is a little faster than full config, which makes sense.

Config 3 is standard on ALL Airbus types. 

You only use flap full when performance necesitates. 

1 minute ago, Farlis said:

Config 3 is standard on ALL Airbus types. 

You only use flap full when performance necesitates. 

That’s nonsense. Config 3 is not standard for all Airbus types. My best friend used to fly the 320 series for a major airline and Flaps Full was standard, not Config 3.

5 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

That’s nonsense. Config 3 is not standard for all Airbus types. My best friend used to fly the 320 series for a major airline and Flaps Full was standard, not Config 3.

Hm maybe it's a company thing then. 

The Bus pilots I know all fly for operators that use 3.

Uses less fuel and is less noisy. 

Just now, Farlis said:

Hm maybe it's a company thing then. 

The Bus pilots I know all fly for operators that use 3.

Uses less fuel and is less noisy. 

Yap its company specific. But the fuel savings are depending on a lot of factors and not really measurable to one exact number. And I've seen some rw pilots adding around 5 kts to the approach speed to get the nose down again as conf 3 leading to higher pitch. So always watch the runway length. But yes, more companies actually trying to make it standard in their SOPs. 

41 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Do you have crash detection on in 2024? If so, turn it off. 

Thanks, that is what I will do. 

You can tell it‘s literally not standard when you have to press a button on the overhead panel for a flaps 3 landing.