December 7, 2025Dec 7 5 hours ago, ryanbatc said: Ok great thanks for the insight. Are the zones controlled by ATC via radar services? Would they "identify" you as you transition the zones? In the USA, ATC would say the words "radar contact" to a vfr who is receiving flight following. Hey Ryan, In the UK we have "traffic service" which is radar controlled and roughly analogous with "flight following" in the US. Buuuut, "Traffic service" is not a 'through' service, in that the service exists only with each specific radar service that you check in with. So you have to establish a new traffic service with each radar service that you engage with! (Most of mainland Europe is like this too). Also, if radar services are too busy, they can 'downgrade' you to a 'basic service' (which I'll cover below). Outside of radar controlled areas, there is 'Basic service'. I'm not sure if that compares to anything like it in the US. Basic service is a 'flight information' only service (no radar). They will provide limited information based on your location, type, altitude and direction that you give them when you check in. I have only flown on a couple of occasions in the US (while visiting from Canada) but from what I've seen, I would say that VFR in the UK is nowhere near as comprehensive or provisional than in the US. Probably to be expected when the population and the size of the GA community is so much smaller. Edited December 7, 2025Dec 7 by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
December 7, 2025Dec 7 Go fly in Wales where the scenery is lovely and the airspace is mainly class G. Just watch out for the sheep and farmers in welly boots. Never fly or land close to sheep as they jump in fright and often break their legs. Don't land in fields of cows as they will lick off any dope and paint on your wings and never land in a field with one cow as you can be sure it's a bull and you are likely to get tossed (unlike the farmers) or gored to death. Avoid dark green or yellow fields as they will be crops. Avoid brown fields as they are probably ploughed with ruts. Try to pick the flat light green ones for emergency landings (hopefully big enough to take off again unless you want your aircraft dismantled and returned to base on trailer (an instructor once suggested that I should try to pick a field close to a pub if possible for a more enjoyable wait for the retrieve crew). Edited December 7, 2025Dec 7 by cianpars Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
December 7, 2025Dec 7 That London area chart just blows my mind. How do you even read that? I have Navigraph and can zoom way in, but there's no amount of zoom that is going to clear that up. Aren't there lots of GA airports in that general area? Obviously you avoid the major airports, but it amazes me how cluttered anywhere down to the coast even is. I'm not a real pilot but spent quite a bit learning the US airspace and that seems to much simpler with the "upside down wedding cake". Sometimes a TAC can get a little crazy around a major airport, but still pretty easily avoidable. I own some GA airports in that area for 2024 and am going to try to learn more there. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
December 7, 2025Dec 7 This is why I prefer SkyDemon maps, the information you need, but not totally obscuring the topographical features, for visual navigation. The area from SkyDemon below. There's actually a lot of nice GA airfields around there, I've put black boxes around a few. There are 3 actually inside the Heathrow Control zone, you don't need permission from Heathrow, there's special procedure for them, something like all circuits away from Heathrow, not above 1200ft VFR, remain within 2 miles of the airfield, that type of thing. One big issue is that Controlled airspace starts at 2500ft, so all the VFR traffic is below that, usually around 2000ft, on a sunny weekend, the airspace is very busy, really need to keep a good lookout!
January 9Jan 9 The old VFR charts have unclear airspace markings, and the new Roger charts are even worse—they make it nearly impossible to distinguish terrain, and they’re just plain images with no clickable data or interactivity. Is there a good way to learn how to use VFR charts? It’s really difficult.
January 9Jan 9 On 12/7/2025 at 5:11 PM, Overload said: This is why I prefer SkyDemon maps, the information you need, but not totally obscuring the topographical features, for visual navigation. The area from SkyDemon below. There's actually a lot of nice GA airfields around there, I've put black boxes around a few. There are 3 actually inside the Heathrow Control zone, you don't need permission from Heathrow, there's special procedure for them, something like all circuits away from Heathrow, not above 1200ft VFR, remain within 2 miles of the airfield, that type of thing. One big issue is that Controlled airspace starts at 2500ft, so all the VFR traffic is below that, usually around 2000ft, on a sunny weekend, the airspace is very busy, really need to keep a good lookout! And Skydemon warns you if you are below near an airspace Edited January 9Jan 9 by Rene_Feijen MS FS 2020/2024 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000mhz | ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 32GB GDDR7 OC EDITION | Varjo Aero | Navigraph | VATSIM | TPR Pedals | Virpil | Honeycomb | Winwing FCU + EFIS | Behringer X Touch Mini | SPAD.next
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