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Baffled by XP12 crashes

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3 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

you could always just swap teh modules around you just never know

Thanks, did that and my son also suggested gently using a rubber to clean the contacts. Just realised my American friends may have laughed reading that, so an eraser for you guys 😁😁

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  • Your supposed to test first without addons than add them back one at a time. No other way to find the problem. And none of those are standard addons. Dont use any.

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    Thanks.  I am now flying successfully with a vanilla XP12 install.  Strange though, because SimHeaven and Global Forests seem to be pretty standard addons in the community.  At least I am OK with noth

  • @mjrhealth That’s how I roll every single day.  AI saves me literally hours a day.  Yes, you have to prompt it well.  No, it’s not always right.  Yes, it will massively HELP you go at problems

4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

gently using a rubber to clean the contacts

Whatever floats your boat, I say! 🤣

18 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Is this still worth doing considering the MemTest86 failed?

I doubt it.  You have three errors at addresses nearly adjacent to each other, suggesting a bad spot in one of the ICs.  A solid confirmation would be to rerun MemTest86 and see if it throws errors in the same area.  That said, though, nothing to be lost by trying to bump the voltage by a few hundredths of a volt...no more than +.05v.

The memory I've been buying for years now (GSkill) has a lifetime warranty.  Is it possible yours is covered by warranty?

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I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!

I went to my local store and purchased a rubber (steady USA, an eraser) for £1.25 ($1.67).  I removed both sticks of memory and gently rubbed all the contacts.  I checked the DIMM slots again for any sign of debris.  Re-inserted the memory and booted into MemTest86 - IT ONLY PASSED THE TEST after 2h 45m 🤩

With memory prices as they are, I am over the moon!!!

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I'm happy for you...but out of an abundance of caution, I'd run that test a few more times.

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6 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

I'm happy for you...but out of an abundance of caution, I'd run that test a few more times.

I said to my wife I am really hoping this isn't an intermittent fault that crashes the PC soon!

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And, please, don't use OC again ...

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First flight in XP12 with...

Global Forests.
SimHeaven.
Map Enhancement Tool.

XP12 crashed with the same errors as before - BUT, the PC has not crashed in a few hours - longest period it has remained on.  So I am still baffled with XP crashing with so few addons running.  I'll have to run XP with no addons.

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1 hour ago, jcomm said:

And, please, don't use OC again ...

The EXPO?  

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9 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I'll have to run XP with no addons.

Try without MapEnhancement - I believe the way it works is continuously downloading new data from the internet - and it will slowly max out your memory...and if there is a weak spot, it is bound to happen upon it eventually.

So you had one crash more or less immediately and not again so far…?

did you have a chance to experiment with Bobs voltage reco…?

P.s.: does it still CtD with ortho or TrueEarth vs ME?

 

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2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The EXPO?  

I guess that's it... although I confess its an area I never tangled...

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I don’t believe I saw it mentioned where overheating might be a culprit. Are all your fans running properly?  Do you need to clean out dust?

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22 minutes ago, Randall said:

I don’t believe I saw it mentioned where overheating might be a culprit. Are all your fans running properly?  Do you need to clean out dust?

Thanks for the suggestion - all clean.  Turned out to be one of my memory sticks with a fault.  Currently running with just one memory stick.

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