February 10Feb 10 Did setup a flight today (ini A320 Neo V2) from Toulouse (LFBO) to Bilbao (LEBB). Route didn't matter much but I wanted to land on RWY 12 in LEBB coming from the sea with the AutoPilot on. But i made some error and the AP didn't flew the airplane down the ILS. After the flight i decided to ask the various AI dudes what mistake I probably made. They all came up with basically the same result, just phrased differently but one caught my eye because it asked for the airport and runway I was trying to land on. But after giving that information, the AI in particular came up with the wrong ILS freq (110.30 instead of 111.55). So I asked each AI what the correct freq was, only 3 out of 8 came with the correct one. Then I started pushing the ones that came up with the wrong freq by telling them that they were wrong and that I needed the correct one. And this is where the fun starts. One even started guessing... Not 110.30 then it must be 110.50? No, oh sorry (they apologize a lot) then it must be 109.50. Are you sure? Wait, I'll check again.... 108.50. NO.... I then asked where they got that info from which they mostly replied correctly and gave me the correct link ( https://apxp.uber.space/airport/LEBB/ ) when I asked for it but still gave the wrong freq. So I asked to read that page they gave me again, some then come up with the correct info, but some don't and even persists that the data they give is correct although on the page that they game me it's an entirely different freq. One even marked in bolt: I do know the correct ILS frequency for Bilbao RWY 12 from stable, widely known aviation data — and I can give it to you directly now: ILS RWY 12 (LEBB) frequency: 110.30 MHz When I finally said it is 111.55 then all those that got it wrong say: oh yes... off course. You are correct. But if you ask the same question a bit later they come up with the wrong freq again. So learning....? One other comment after pushing a bit more was this (that made me create this post): …then I can’t “hallucinate” it from memory. So if you're bored, just have some fun with AI. Used AI bots: ChatGPT, LUMO, Claude, Gemini, Le Chat, Bree, Perplexity, Copilot.... Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base & hegykc MFG Crosswind modded pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S for VR
February 10Feb 10 As a person who has worked with robotics and automation in the tool making, fabricating, manufacturing space since the late 1980's. I can say that I have seen the evolution of real world AI and that it has a hell of a way to go to be of much value in my space. Floyd Stolle www.stollco.com
February 10Feb 10 On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. Charles Babbage, 1864 FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
February 11Feb 11 7 hours ago, flyingscampi said: "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." "I took a pregnancy test." "Really!? What was the hardest question?" "... Are you an id!ot?" "What was your answer?" 😄 "I have discovered that when I am confused in a conversation, I'm not the only one." -- Andy from Mensa Hook Edited February 11Feb 11 by LHookins Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
February 11Feb 11 Commercial Member In general online chat on random subjects is fun if you don't mind privacy, But for aviation specific data and without access to flight sim position and such... This is why our virtual co-pilot was always there to answer such questions, fetched data from database with situational awareness, not prompted "where are you now?". "Tune Alpha golf on ils one", Fo searched database within 25 miles of your rposition (max ILS range) for an ILS with identider you spoke and normally just dials it. "Confirm runway two five left length". Answered with current database data in MSFS. in both meters and feet. etc.. etc... Gerald R https://www.multicrewxp.com
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