Sonar5

>>I did have one guy who said he could do this but that was>several months ago now and he delivered NOTHING. A lot of>promis and a lot of hot air.>Wow, not sure that bodes well for prospective team members after that sentence.Also, you might try one of the Scenery Forums Avsim has here, and try advertising in one of those. That is ususally where developer folks hang out, so to speak.Scenery Design Forumhttp://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=123Add-On Developers Forumhttp://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=204

Off to bed for a few hours anyway. Prayers for all in the path.

Posted in hangar Chat already. And while an escape for this storm would be nice, it aint gonna happen with this one.Thank you for your thoughts though. They could also use prayers.http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=21316&page=

Good Location for wind data once this one hits folks.It's called BURL1 Station, Normally manned.Station BURL1 - Southwest Pass, LAThere is also a Graph you can click on, but not posting it to save bandwidth. It shows the trends.http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=burl1Conditions at BURL1 as of(8:00 pm PDT on 08/28/2005)0300 GMT on 08/29/2005:Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true ) Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 63 kts Wind Gust Wind Gust (GST): 70 kts Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.16 in Pressure Tendency Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.17 in ( Falling Rapidly )

Hi Ken,Also check your messages here.Glad to here you are ok. Hope and pray you stay that way as well.An ERC is unlikely to help at this point, from what I read, and may be too late for it. The reason is the eye is forecasted at about 30 miles wide, and you need a much smaller eye wall from what I have been reading about this.I also don't trust the wind forecast. With pressure at 904.REPEATING THE 10 PM CDT POSITION...27.6 N... 89.4 W. MOVEMENTTOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINEDWINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 904 MB.That 160 latest is old based on a not reliable reading.Read This about the last reading: Trust the Pressure not the winds. Please stay safe, and I have prayers for you and your family.Joe000WTNT42 KNHC 290249TCDAT2HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 25NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL11 PM EDT SUN AUG 28 2005 THERE ARE CONFLICTING SIGNALS REGARDING THE INTENSITY OF KATRINA. THE NOAA AIRCRAFT NEAR 00Z REPORTED A PEAK FLIGHT LEVEL WIND OF 155KT...WHICH WOULD NORMALLY CORRESPOND TO 140 KT AT THE SURFACE. THEPRESSURE REMAINS EXTREMELY LOW...904 MB AT LAST REPORT. ON THEOTHER HAND...THE STEPPED-FREQUENCY MICROWAVE RADIOMETER...ORSFMR...SUGGESTED WINDS WERE IN THE 120-130 KT RANGE...AND LIMITEDDROPSONDE DATA ALSO SUGGESTED SOMETHING A LITTLE BELOW 140 KT. THERE ARE ENOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SFMR ATTHESE SPEEDS FOR ME TO STICK WITH THE STANDARD 90 PERCENTADJUSTMENT FOR NOW.THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MODEST CHANGES IN THE STRUCTURE OF KATRINA OVERTHE LAST SEVERAL HOURS. RECENT MICROWAVE PASSES SHOW THAT AN OUTEREYEWALL IS IN THE FORMATIVE STAGES...AND THE LATEST IR IMAGES SHOWA LESS WELL-DEFINED EYEWALL WITH MORE EVIDENCE OF OUTER BANDING.THE NOAA HURRICANE HUNTERS ALSO REPORTED AN EROSION OF THE EYEWALLIN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. THESE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT THERECOULD BE SOME WEAKENING OF KATRINA PRIOR TO LANDFALL. ALL THIS ISRELATIVE...HOWEVER...AND KATRINA IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE OF ATLEAST CATEGORY FOUR INTENSITY WHEN IT REACHES THE COAST. AN EYEWALLREPLACEMENT AT THIS POINT IS NOT ALL GOOD NEWS...AS THEY AREGENERALLY ACCOMPANIED BY A BROADENING OF THE WIND FIELD...SO THATEVEN AS KATRINA WEAKENS THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE AREA THATEXPERIENCES MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.THERE HAS BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE TRACK FORECAST. THEINITIAL MOTION IS 335/9. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY TURNNORTHWARD INTO A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ASSOCIATED WITH ALARGE MID-LATITUDE CYCLONE NEAR THE GREAT LAKES. MODEL GUIDANCEREMAINS TIGHTLY CLUSTERED...WITH THE NOGAPS SHIFTING JUST A BITEAST OF ITS PREVIOUS TRACK. WHILE THERE IS GREAT SIGNIFICANCE FORTHE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS IN THE DETAILS OF THE TRACK...TRACKANOMOLIES OF 30-50 MILES ARE STILL POSSIBLE EVEN 12-18 HOURS OUT.

Latest Pressure right from the aircraft907 mb.Winds 166.75 mph Converted from Knots.30 Mile wide Width of the Eye. Tornadic storms east.Air Force guy said another Camille but in a larger sense. He's near the eye.FNC

Thanks for updating the links Holger. :-)I've been busy watching other things.

Fox News Channel just read the same statement I posted HOURS ago, Verbatim.

Jeff, I've been following it all day. Except for when I went out for gas, and meals.One of the BOUY's I've been monitoring has been out of service for at leasts two Hours, number 42001.BOUY 42001http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?...1&unit=E&tz=PSTThis one is still up:42040MOBILE SOUTH 64 nm South of Dauphin Island, ALhttp://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42040Wind Direction (WDIR): E ( 80 deg true ) Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 36.9 kts Wind Gust Wind Gust (GST): 48.6 kts Wave Height Wave Height (WVHT): 29.5 ftMost interesting is the wave height. Not Good.****** Jeff, this is a lifetime event for those experiencing it. I'v enever seen a storm this big, an dthat pressure readings. I think that last 160 mph reading is a fluke, since the pressure didn't change much.Prayers are needed at this point for those who had to stay there or chose to stay there.

>...and I just took my son to LSU in Baton Rouge last week-I>also am crossing my fingers for all....>I'll be saying a prayer for your son as well. If you talk to him, make sure he has a mattress with him. May the Lord keep him safe. have you talked with him today?

Already in Hangar Chat Bob, but I've been praying quite a bit today.http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=21316&page=

Here you go.Falcon 2004 Update by Eric Dantes d' E.D.Aviation:http://www.francevfr-us.com/files/falcon50...ll_falcon50.exeAnd an Install Doc here:http://www.francevfr.com/contenu/avions/eda_falcon50_doc.pdfSomething is goofy with the links in this thread, you may have ot cut and paste the links. Regards,Joe

Hi Rick,I recommend you check out my Freeware Thread here:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...ing_type=searchThere are dozens of recommendations of all kinds.I also recommend the Freeware Cirrus, which you can get here at Avsim.FREEWARE Cirrus SR-20http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...04ac&DLID=66089Regards,Joe

>OK, whatever you say.....:) Well, david I said this earlier this morning:On another Point, fill up your cars with gas no matter where you are today. The rigs will sustain damage as they have in the past, and with prices where they are, they will go higher.Fill up with gas today, not tomorrow, for tomorrow they will spike throughout the week, IMHO.And Now Crude has already spiked through the roof. I hope you took my advice earlier. :-)

Now Strongest EVER Hurricane in Gulf of MexicoFrom:http://www.weatherunderground.com/blog/Jef...1&tstamp=200508The 6:30pm EDT NOAA Hurricane Hunter mission found a central pressure of 904 mb, up from the 902 measured at 3:30pm. These pressures make Katrina the fourth strongest hurricane ever, and the strongest hurricane ever observed in the Gulf of Mexico, surpassing Camille. However, the winds of Katrina are 165 mph, far from Camille's 190 mph winds at landfall.Although the pressure has stopped falling, there is no indication that Katrina is about to undergo weakening, like we saw yesterday during her eyewall replacement cycle. When that cycle started, the eye diameter was 9 nm, but the present eye diameter is 28 nm. Eyewall replacement cycles usually begin when the eye shrinks below 10 nm, and there are no indications that Katrina's eye is going to shrink.The list of strongest hurricanes of all time now reads:Hurricane Gilbert (888 mb, 1988)The Great Labor Day Hurricane (892 mb, 1935)Hurricane Allen (899 mb, 1980)Hurricane Katrina (902 mb, 2005)Hurricane Camille (905 mb, 1969)Landfall location and intensityKatrina has continued to expand in size, and now rivals Hurricane Gilbert and Hurricane Allen as the largest hurricanes in size. When hurricanes reach such enormous sizes, they tend to create their own upper-air environment, making them highly resistant to external wind shear. The global computer models are not really hinting at any wind shear that might affect Katrina before landfall, and the only thing that might weaken her is an eyewall replacement cycle. Even if one of these happens in the next 12 hours, the weakest Katrina is likely to get before landfall is a Category 4 hurricane with 145 mph winds. Katrina is so huge and powerful that she will still do incredible damage even at this level. The track forecast has not changed significantly, and the area from New Orleans to the Mississippi-Louisiana border is going to get a catastrophic blow. I put the odds of New Orleans getting its levees breached and the city submerged at about 70%. This scenario, which has been discussed extensively in literature I have read, could result in a death toll in the thousands, since many people will be unable or unwilling to get out of the city. I recommend that if you are trapped in New Orleans tomorrow, that you wear a life jacket and a helmet if you have them. High rise buildings may offer good refuge, but Katrina has the potential to knock down a high-rise building. A 25 foot storm surge and 30 - 40 foot high battering waves on top of that may be able to bring down a steel-reinforced high rise building. I don't believe a high rise building taller than six stories has ever been brought down by a hurricane, so this may not happen Monday, either. We are definitely in unknown waters with Katrina.*********On another Note, US Crude futures opened up $4.67 a barrel. If you havn't gassed up, do it now. You won't be happy tomorrow.

Jim,I've got another Bouy located 64 nm South of Dauphin Island, AL, recording Wave Height (WVHT) of: 30.8 ft. at 3:50pm Pacific, about 30 minutes ago..That has been the highest thus far and is Station 42040.

david,I really don't care what you think you know. You think you are the only one to have been through a Hurricane or a Typhoon?I'm happy you made it through.As for growing up, pass by my posts if you don't approve of them. I really don't care if you like what I post or not.Like it or not, this storm is going to hit, and hit hard.

>The point: Nothing is gained my running around yelling "the>sky is falling"... even if it is. BTW - You are posting in a>public flight sim forum not...blah...blah...blah...>>You seem to have missed this then:This forum is for the discussion of real world aviation topics and any other topics not covered in other forums. Please make sure that your topic isn't covered in another forum before posting here. Have a nice day. :-)

Well, then you and David can simply not read the thread. If you don't like it, don't read it. simple as that.You chose to read it. Remember that.My Info is both factual and also contains my opinions of what may happen.If you have different opinions of what may happen, offer them.I wonder why you haven't heard the following statement I posted below on TV yet then? It's almost an hour old.What sources would that be that you can get this info from? And I am posting real sources, with links. What have you contributed, other than you don't appreciate my opinions or facts?

And Then there is this from the Government of The United States of America.When you look at my comments, I also suggest youi all read this:I wonder why this warning is not being put on the Air.http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/us/allwarnings.htmlWWUS74 KLIX 282139NPWLIXURGENT - WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA......DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. ATLEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALLFAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELYDAMAGED OR DESTROYED.THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOODFRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETEBLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOMEWALL AND ROOF FAILURE.HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...AFEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCHAS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITYVEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATEADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THEWINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWNAND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERINGINCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLYTHE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEWCROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEARHURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...AREPOSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.

>I hope that the poor souls in the way of this mega storm can>remain somewhat calmer than you, Sonar5. While I admire your>concern, I really don't believe you are helping anyone, or the>morale of the people affected, with your prophecies of death>and destruction.>>Good luck to everyone affected, I hope you come through OK.>>DavidDavid,I suggest you read articles on the SuperDome. It is not recommended above Category II, according to some, and has NOT BEEN TESTED.From:http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl0923...nh.1295648.html On the surface, the Superdome seems like the most logical choice for an emergency shelter, and city officials are leaning in the Dome

It's not just my prophecies David.It is also those within the know about these things.MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 175 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THESAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE...AT LEAST EQUAL TO HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24HOURS...BUT KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY FIVEHURRICANE.BASED ON THE LATEST FORECAST TRACK AND SPEED...A CATEGORY FIVELAND-FALLING HURRICANE WOULD BRING TIDE LEVELS AS HIGH AS 10 TO 15FEET ALONG COASTAL MOBILE COUNTY AND THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF MOBILEBAY...WITH A SURGE AROUND 20 FEET POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHERNPART OF MOBILE BAY...WHICH WOULD SEVERELY AFFECT DOWNTOWNMOBILE WITH WATER SPILLING INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA ANDEXTENDING AS FAR WEST AS BROAD STREET. THIS WOULD BE THE HIGHESTSURGE LEVEL EVER EXPERIENCED IN MOBILE. FOR COMPARISON...THEHIGHEST SURGE LEVELS PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREAWERE NEAR 9 FEET WITH HURRICANES FREDERIC AND GEORGES. INADDITION...DAUPHIN ISLAND WOULD LIKELY BE INUNDATED...EXCEPT FORHIGHER GROUND ON THE EAST END.You sound just like the people still drinking in the bars in New Orleans who think this thing is media hype. Unfortunately, they will most likely be lost in this type of storm.And, for those that are still there, they did not heed the warnings given to them earlier if they had a means to escape. I will be praying for them.As for death and destruction, yes it will happen, and there is nothing that can stop this storm now, nothing.Do you realize the Superdome was studied with wind effects of only up to 130 mph. Think about that.News reporters think they will be safe on the third floor of a building, not taking account of the damage due to the winds and F3 Tornado Category style effects.As for Category 5 Storms, we have had only 3 other Cat 5 STorms EVER make landfall in the United States. Ever Dave.The Pumps in new Orleans are designed to pump an inch an hour. They won't make it Dave.So what part of the word CATASTROPHIC do you not understand?BTW - I just filled up my gas at $2.639 a Gallon.*************News reports are estimating up to 100,000 are now stranded inside new Orleans.There are now thousands outside the SuperDome waiting to get in according to FNc who is the only Channel who has live coverage at the Dome.. And yes, I have shed some tears today thinking about these people who are about to lose their lives. And I am not the only one who has done so. Even Janice Dean on FNC looked like she was ready to cry over this.This will hit not mid-morning like some ar esaying but probably 3-4 am, as it is increasing slightly in its trend.

I can't believe what I am hearing.They are not evacuating Prisons, Hospitals, etc.... This is CRIMINAL.Louisiana's Governor, and the local Government has failed to get buses, trucks, etc. to evacuate these people from Friday through Sunday borders on incompetent and neglect.Keep this in mind on Tuesday and Wednesday as we hear the death toll of those who were not removed like Hospitals, Prisons, elderly facilities, etc...Nothing has been done that I have heard, and they are not evacuating the ones who cannot evacuate themselves.That is going to be the most horrific part of this story I fear.I can't believe they are not evacuating Hospitals. This is CRIMINAL Behavior on the part of the Local and State Governments. How can they let this happen?

Good Post, here is the Area Bouy'shttp://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php...dist=250&time=3

Winds up to 184mph, and pressure down to 902mb per weather channel.Folks, there is a pretty LARGE chance this storm will not weaken, and the pressure will keep decreasing to high 800's.Word is FEMA has been told this storm will not weaken. (read at Free republic in teh live thread, heard on CNN.) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472323/postsFR is on Thread v with Thousands of posts already. Those threads when live usually is the best place I get info from. Even if you don't like conservatives, any info source is a good source.