ryanvine6

But.......they've said they're working on it. If one of Level-D's developers has said they're working on it, well, call me stupid but I'm inclined to believe him. Sorry, but I don't understand why people have this sense of certainty that this project is never going to happen. Is it because they haven't updated their progress beyond "there will be a 757?" What makes us, as simmers, entitled to updates and screenshots and videos? I feel ridiculous because I'm sure I'm coming off as some kind of massive tool, but it bugs me when people make statements like so many I've seen in this thread. Or when they demand things or feel entitled to them, then make blanket statements and assumptions when they don't get what they want, or feel entitled to. This is from earlier in this thread. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but Tabs is one of PMDG's developers, right?

I'd just like to say a big thank you to WOAI, and all the developers who contributed, for sharing their work with us--for free! There are probably nicer looking, or more up-to-date, AI packages out there, but this has served me really well. I'm also glad they've decided to give us several months' notice, instead of, say, yanking everything down out of nowhere.

Sorry, I don't know what to say. I just found this so fantastic, I had to quote it. Twenty-one million dollars per plane....?!

This is total speculation on my part, and I may have no clue what I'm talking about. I'm not sure these days. But what if the delay is due to advances in technology? In the six years since the Level-D 757 was announced, huge advances have been made in the FS payware world. It seems like developers have learned so much more about FSX's limitations, for example, and how to find ways around them. So now we're seeing more advanced, detailed aircraft than ever before. As I understand it, PMDG designed their 737 from scratch. Not a single line of code was carried over from the 747, MD-11, or any other plane. What if LDS is doing something similar--designing the 757 from the ground up, based on the latest things they've learned about how FSX works? In other words, yes, we've been waiting for a long time, but when it does come out, it'll be the best work LDS can manage. I'd rather wait for that, than have them release something that's instantly 'behind the times' because it doesn't take advantage of what we know about FSX today. Also, I agree 100% with those who say LDS doesn't owe any of us anything. No one's pre-ordered the 757 or made a deposit on it. And if LDS decides to do their work without offering us updates or screenshots, so be it. That's how they choose to do things. Besides, Daryl has said many, many times: "The 757 is coming." Why should we not believe him? Because it's taken six years? Because there's been only one picture released in that time? If those are the only reasons, well, I personally don't think they're very good ones.

Personally, I prefer VAs that are fictional (not based on real-life airlines). I guess it gives me more scope to use my imagination--if we're doing all this stuff virtually, might as well go all-out! I fly for American Flight Airways. You could call it my favorite since I've flown there since 2008; in that time I've joined and abandoned several other VAs for various reasons. But I've stuck around with AFA--they have a nice fleet selection, tons of routes, pretty active forums... ...and they're totally fake, haha

Quick question: with payware aircraft that don't have a 2D cockpit panel, is it possible to add one of your own? Can you find a nice 777 panel, drop it in your aircraft file, and add/change a few lines to the .cfg or something like that?

A payware Metro! How exciting--it's one of my favorite planes ever. Looks like a mosquito to me

I only have the Level-D 767--it was my first payware purchase for FS--and I really like it. Like others have said, the VC textures are a bit old, but I can easily look past that because it's a high-quality plane in almost every other area. And the FPS are very decent for my computer, which was brand-new about 2 1/2 years ago!

Excellent point, and piece of advice. Flight1's refund policy is the exception, not the norm, when it comes to flight sim addons. I think it would be very wise for us to do our research before buying anything. Check out reviews on Avsim and elsewhere on the Internet. Look up videos on Youtube. Before you buy a non-refundable product, you should have a good idea as to what you're buying.

As far as I know, ETOPS would not be required for Caribbean flights, because according to the Great Circle Mapper-- http://www.gcmap.com...tist&DU=mi&E=60 --you'll always be within 60 minutes of an airport. (To show the shaded ETOPS area, scroll down to the "ETOPS" tab, check the "60 minutes" box, then click "Draw Map".) I think there's another rule, not related to ETOPS, that requires life vests on board for all flights that travel over something like 50 or 75 NM from shore.

I'm curious. What other facts do you need? Daryl has said it all right there. And he's under absolutely no obligation to say anything else. I don't see any problem here, other than a lot of people exhibiting a ridiculous sense of entitlement and throwing out logical fallacies.

And......and what exactly does a cat have to do with a piece of software?

So.....if I'm understanding you correctly, you're assuming that because we've only seen one screenshot in "7 years", it means they're not working on it, or they've abandoned the project, or that Daryl's outright lying to us when he says "the 757 is coming". I just don't get that correlation at all.

What makes you think he's 'pulling our leg'?

Love it! Now THAT'S customer service! :LMAO:

Yup, that's what I heard, too! I am also demanding updates on every one of these aircraft twice a day. I bought the LDS 767 a couple of years ago; therefore, it's my right to receive constant, accurate updates, and it's your responsibility to comply. Otherwise I'll protest and whine and complain here and everywhere else I can on the Internet. I'll also need your personal phone number, Daryl, so I can call whenever I feel like asking you more specific questions on these projects. And when do you expect to release all these planes? I demand to know immediately. Actually, you should have told us that weeks ago. Wow. How disrespectful of you. :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:

They're going to sell to all of us. And we're all going to be so eager to buy it it'll be ridiculous. Based on what I've read on these and other flight sim forums, I think that all of the discontent and impatience that results from a lack of updates is instantly reversed when a developer releases either an update, or the product itself. As soon as Daryl announces the 757's release--be it tomorrow, or in four (or 40) more years--everyone will line up with their credit cards to buy it. Like I've said, I don't imagine anyone boycotting Level-D because they've had to wait so long for the plane. This is very much worth repeating. It's a part-time venture for them--which means they have lives outside of developing FS planes. If they're valid retorts, why not share them? If they're valid, you most certainly won't be banned for them.

I'm still not sure where this sense of entitlement a lot of you have comes from. 'We, as flight simmers, are owed a 757, we're owed updates, we're owed screenshots and videos, we're owed a release date.' Give me a break. Level-D owes nothing to any of us. Let's also remember this: Here, let me post it again: Also, I'm still firmly of the belief that all the same people that are being so overly, and in my opinion, unfairly, critical of LDS will be the very first ones to trip over themselves whipping out their credit cards when the 757 is released. I don't see any massive "Occupy"-style boycotts coming from the sim community.

I think Daryl's statement is a completely valid, professional, and credible answer. Each developer has the right to do business the way they want to. Some provide constant updates and screenshots of their work, some choose to keep their mouths shut while they do their thing behind the scenes. I really don't think developers should have to answer to these constant requests/demands/semi-logical whiny tirades for release dates and updates. And I don't think Level-D should be expected to work like other developers do. In other words: if Payware Developer A is making a plane, and releases an update once a week, Payware Developer B is making a plane, and releases an update once a month, and Level-D is making the 757 and all we've heard in four years is "The 757 is coming".......so what? It may sound ridiculous, but that's the way they want to do things. If we don't like it, we're free to take our money elsewhere, or form our own team and make a payware-quality 757 of our own. But I'd venture to say that even with all the discontent regarding a lack of updates, a lot of flight simmers are slobbering for this plane, and they'll whip out their credit cards the moment Daryl announces its release. Level-D will do what they have to do, release the 757 when it's done, and their work will speak for itself (and keep in mind Flight1's return policy). I think it's silly and pointless for people to demand things from them, or give them ultimatums--"either you make the 757, or let PMDG do it!" Haha....what?

Sigh.How is "The 757 is coming." not a credible response? A member of Level-D's development team said the 757 is coming. He's said it more than once. In fact, he's said it twice in this very thread. Now, call me an idiot for believing someone when they say something, but.....I believe Daryl when he says the 757 is coming. I don't see why he'd lie about it.Just because they haven't released screenshots doesn't mean the project has been stopped.Just because it's taken so long doesn't mean the project has been stopped.For all we know, the plane is in super-late-beta right now, and will be released tomorrow.And for all we know, it will be the most technologically advanced FS addon that's ever been seen (since they've worked on it for four years), or that will ever be seen. It will forever be the pinnacle of flight simulation technology that no one will ever be able to top. And, because of this, the universe will collapse on itself and everything will cease to exist. So none of us will ever really get a chance to use the plane past engine start.So I guess the joke's on all of us. Way to go, Level-D :D