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Yep, I know... I figure the development of the Maximus VII Extreme or Maximus VIII Extreme with the X99 chipset is so far away that I'll have to do what I told someone in another post not to do - 4790K Devil's Canyon on a Maximus VI Extreme mobo.

Sweet. Ask him when we'll see X99 Wellsburg boards and Haswell-e CPU's, please! :ph34r:

I'm going to be out of this thread for a while until I do some repair to the computer. It be no good. Lost 2 PCIe lanes.

Wow. I know that in places in Europe you have VAT and that really punches the price up in my opinion. Could you mail order from here? Usually much cheaper than New Egg and Tiger Direct. EDIT: Sorry, I just checked the terms of that site and they don't ship outside the US. But if you found a mate that would pick it up and ship it to you via FedEx or something, would that help the price? I actually hang out (read that as lurk) on occasion at Overclockers.co.uk. It's a good site.

@ patrico - I could overclock your setup to 4GHz for nothing if you were in Ohio. Go to Overclockers.net and see what's there. There's probably step-by-step instructions you can follow. I've reached 5.2GHz on my 3770K and at last check was the 6th fastest 3770K worldwide running on water cooling. Are computer parts in Europe expensive? Just curious. GTX 780 TI in US is 460 Euros. Devil's Canyon 4790K is $269 everyday price right now. I agree that price quoted to patrico is too cheap. But not by that much. For a fellow simmer or a friend, I could do that work for about $950 and the labor would be free. No, I have a day job and am not looking for work! But if I was doing it to help someone out, that would be my price. Maybe cheaper depending on what socket the mobo is.

Hi, world, As part of the new rig I'm building, I am doing some research and I came across a YouTube vid of a simmer flying the DCS A-10C using a 23" touchscreen where his MFD's and primary flight instuments reside, with the HUD symbology shown on the center display. Really cool, looked like it was working very well. Anyone know about this? Nothing that I could find on the forums here. Best, Kevin

Martin, we are going to have to agree to disagree. As I posted, if I bought a case now, it would probably be a Corsair. And I can see 90% of the cases on the market at my local Micro Center, as they have about 40 on display. Most of them suck, to put it bluntly. They have too much open mesh, or too much plastic, or their interior design is horrible. I would pick three makers, and in this order, and not everything they sell - Corsair, Cooler Master, Thermaltake. After that, too much plastic, too many wierd shapes, poor case design. But again, regardless of what the three of us think, mostly cases come down to personal preference and not practicalilty. I always pick a case because I intend on seeing it for 10 years.

Umm... you quoted me for some reason at the top of your post, but that wasn't me that said that. Your quote at the bottom is correct. As for cases, I agree with you. My case was originally marketed in 2009 and today's cases are mostly, well, sub-par because of all of what the Brits call "fiddly bits". My Cosmos case has huge top fans (2), PSU fan, large bottom fan that can be aimed at certain parts that need more airflow than others, a HDD rack fan, large rear fans AND grommets for external liquid cooling. Except for the rear fan, all of the other ones are hidden and you can't even hear them running. And it's very stylish. Of course, I added 6 blue acrylic custom hot-swap bays and the entire inside is wrinkle finish black... If a case has all the features a builder needs and it's built like a tank, why buy today's product? My old Thermaltake X is a beautiful case - and very solid with lots of fans. Seems a shame to let it sit in the corner, so it will probably become #2 on the network when I pick up my Jetmax. I interrupted the discussion because there's beautifully-built cases out in the real world that have all of the features that one would need, and it doesn't have to be a "my way or the highway" approach.

Generally, I refrain from case advice on build questions. People will buy what they think "looks nice" from my experience. Although if I were buying a new case today, it would probably be a Corsair unit.

My understanding, Dazz, is that Intel was forced into this next generation of chipset and CPU because of AMD. (Their claim, not mine) I used to be an AMD-only user, always rooting for the underdog. Sandy Bridge and the i7-2700K was where I made the move to Intel. Before that, always AMD. Intel felt that because of the dismal performance returns of IB and Haswell and the corresponding chipsets (Devil's Canyon, anyone?) and the resultant black eye from the hardcore OC/gamer crowd, they had to go more than 4 cores, and the next gen had to blow away everything to date. And I understand that Intel will take a profit loss on Haswell -e CPU's just to get their image back. It should make for an interesting next 18 months, because the AMD unit allegedly waiting in the wings is every bit as sharp as Haswell -e. We will see, my friend. Wow... Here's my case, with a Corsair H100 water cooling system for the CPU, plus 3 120mm fans in the case, not counting the 2 on the H100, and 1 80mm fan cooling my RAM and SSD's. I'll admit that it's old but not dated. To each their own!

Here you go, $179 after rebate...

This is current 4790K pricing where I purchase all of my hardware. That is, except for my CSX Creations custom-painted Cooler Master Cosmos case... :wub: . Anyway, they said that their price on the 6-core will introduce at $269....

They are actively ramping down their inventory to legacy support only on i7-2XXX through i7-4XXX CPU's. This means that they will keep about 6 on hand instead of the 30 or 40 they always have.

I believe it's Lewis Carroll, from "Alice in Wonderland" fame. Same writer.

The sales guy said the same thing - compared to what I have, 4790K would be "meh". By all reports, the new Haswell e is targeted to users like you and I, specifically for overclocking and modding. Will run cooler than Haswell or IB allegedly.

If you don't mind, I'd like to make a suggestion for your consideration. Wait. In September, the Haswell -e -series boards and the i7-53XX CPU's from Intel will hit the market. Judging by the whitepapers and datasheets I've read, as well as the info on enthusiast pages like HardOC[P], this will be the boards and CPU's we've been waiting for. Your 4970K and my 3770K have a difference in power of 8-20% based on which application you are using. The new Haswell -e's will be available with 4-, 6-, or 8-core CPU's using i7 technology and if 90% of everything I've read is true, these will represent a true quantum leap in memory bandwidth, I/O and CPU speeds. Kind of what the 2700K and Sandy Bridge did for us several years ago. If you build your 4970K system now, you might regret it in September. Please read here. Personally, I'm impressed. Our MicroCenter store has information that the 6 core 5390K will run at around 4GHz and they will have an opening price of around $269. I was going to purchase a new 4970K and a ROG Maximus VI Extreme mobo last week as an interim step while waiting for my new Haswell e board and the store sales guy, who works for commission, pleaded with me to hold off. Said it was a complete waste of money with the new architecture so close and the pricing being about the same. Just posting here for your consideration. Kevin

Augh! No. One card wants to remain unrecognized and the fan on the card runs at 100%. Updated drivers and BIOS, rolled back same, I swear, nothing works correctly since new drive installation and P3D. Aarrrgh! On a better note, ASUS ROG may be sending me a beta Haswell-E board and choice of processor for testing in late Aug...

I just went through this and upgraded my Corsair AX850 to an AXi1200. I had not done 3-way SLI with my 760's before, just 2-way and used the 3rd for PhysX, and it was OK. However, it struggled with the 3-way SLI for some reason. Your 1000w PSU should be ok, though.

You would do best to contact PMDG at their website and submit a request ticket.

Kyle, where are my hugs and rainbows? :wub:

I believe that there is language in the PMDG EULA that says you should not be doing that. They can probably shut off your serial number validation or worse... You might want to check that.

Hi, Fr. Bill - Two comments- 1. Thank you for bringing that to our attention that FSXGenius has been caught by the law, and an investigation is under way. That should settle some of the questions here... 2. Froogle gets a "C-" in grammar for his page... Not that he cares!

Wow, Dazz, I humbly bow before your knowledge. I was using bufferpools. I would love to place my previous configuration back in place just to test all of this and show the results. However, I no longer have anything FSX related installed as of a week ago. My entire system has been taken down including the OS and I've reinstalled everything freshly in preparation for P3D. @777Simmer - I use TrackIR, PFPX, EFB, GSX, AES, ASN, REX TD, Ultimate Traffic 2, RC4, CDU, EFIS, and MCP hardware, FTX Global, Vector, and mesh, and my JFK is not stock. I think ImagineSim JFK 2.0... I have very few stock FSX airports other then GA fields. Anything that I was flying the NGX or T7 out of has been replaced with AFCAD Freeware or Pay add-ons. Traffic was set to 90% air, 10% ground, and 2% water/boat. Airport traffic was set to 50%. I did try to go back and sort through my archived files for a copy of my old fsx.cfg, but no luck. I was going to post that here. One of the biggest boosts to my system was when I dropped in the IB bios update from ASUS.

Sorry, I think we're saying some of the same things.. OK, I was a little harsh on that post, please accept my apologies. Been working 16 hr days for two weeks with no end in sight... Here is my mobo. I used an EVGA GTX760 SC for FSX. It was in my last 16x slot. I have often wondered why people get bad framerates because I even got 25+ FPS using AMD cards 2 or 3 years ago. Not sure exactly what I'm doing right, or what others are doing that's different. Having said that, my SLI setup was in slots 1 (x16) and 3 (x16). I assigned them as PhysX units in NCP. I have no idea if they helped. However, when running FSX, I had no video cables attached to the 2 units that were SLI, only to the stand-alone 760GTX. Officially, FSX is not supported by PhysX. However, my system seemed to run much smoother with this than without it. In answer to your question, you can run any GTX card(s) as stand-alone PhysX units. You could have a Titan for video (overkill in my opinion) and a 650, 560, any GTX card for PhysX. I'm not annoyed, just really dog-tired. Apologies. I got rid of GEX/UTX as soon as FTX came out. In my opinion, it's faster. When I had an i7-2770K, my system ran at 23-28fps. With the 3770K I've been using for about a year, rock solid 28-30fps. This was in FSX. Once I start examining the P3D setup, I plan on eliminating the FPS issues people are having in the VC's. 100+ everywhere but the VC. Then it crashes to around 19-20 FPs is my reading on here. I've only installed it, haven't really ran it yet. Here's the point I was trying to make to the OP. The OP is worried about his video card. Video cards help, but my experience is that you can do really well pushing the data as fast as possible through the system.

Slow your roll, chief. You didn't read the post correctly. Perhaps I wasn't clear. My entire post referred to my FSX setup. I am not running P3D yet, waiting on cables as I said. As I said, those results and that SLI/single card was my FSX setup. I ran FSX on the slow single 760GTX and used the SLI cards as Physx. THIS WAS MY FSX SETUP. Said it again just so you'd pick that up. SINGLE 760GTX IN FSX. FSX DOESN'T USE SLI. I feel like I already said this like twice, maybe 3 times here. Not trying to be ugly, but you just negated everything I said without a full understanding of what it is I actually wrote. My lowest FPS with the T7 ever was at Fly Tampa OMDB in the VC was 28. I think you should read my post again. The only difference between my FSX setup and my P3D setup is that all three cards are now SLI and are in use.