RogerRoger ,How would you manage that?Cheers[br][/img][/font][/b]

I would propose some action... how about someone oficially representing the PIC team opens a Paypal account and we ALL raise $5000 to pay the PIC team the time and effort? is this something viable? 100 users (which i'm sure is NOTHING for the PIC community) can perfectly donate/pay 50$ each. I'm sure that if we take this seriously we will see some action. How many more posts you would like to see with something like would you pay for a patch?If fact it would so cool to have the PIC team release the patch ONLY and ONLY if the $5000 target is reached :) besides, this is not revenue per se for anyone, this is simply a DONATION for somebody else time. I'm sure Laurent can do this is a snap!

Ahhh we must remember the single most important point in making PIC for the team besides money, the sheer love and dedication to producing this type of aircraft simulation, as Wade once said "A labour of love" I would hate to see this somehow mistaken for the $$$ aspect alone ;)...[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith [h4]P M D G 7 3 7 NG[/h4] [h3] Realism on the horizon [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG @ 215/545|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5]

Well,The answer is NO for the patch.But don't any of you remember Wade's post, where he explained that they might or might not do the PICv2 (the release being earliest in the fall, if they had started it right away then, if I recall right)?Obviously they have not decided yet about the new version. If they had, it wouldn't make any sense not telling us about it. If I was to suddenly hear that a new PIC is in the makes, I'd be preaching in the name of PIC even more all around the internet LOL...On the other hand, if they've entirely lost interest, as I fear some of them have (seems that Pedro is the only one whose name hasn't been mentioned in the "not interested" -category), then we're perhaps just feeding our fantasies here. I don't mean to be rude, but it seems that if there's anything else to do elsewhere in life, they don't have any time for PIC developing at all... and that's fine, everyone does as he pleases, and I'm sure that the developing _is_ time consuming.Only, a simple answer regarding the future of this addon would be in order. If it is a NO, then I'd have to try to start thinking about something else in the future... can't fly FS2002 forever.Tero

So it is true.. you always can't get what you want. Maybe another team would produce 757/767 PIC for FS9, and I hope it would be some time soon.Cheers,Fido

Clearly, if I was a developper, I would want to sell 500 copies at $200 each. :-)Gianluca

What would it be to Wilco to simply release the PIC source code. It was written three years ago, could there really be anything that secret in it. How many copies could they still be selling at this point? If Wilco is not interested in progressing with PIC, there might be some talented programers who can take a look at the programing and figure out a way to make a patch.mouse

It is not Wilco who knows anything about the source code.Comon guys! This thread should be ended. It is just this sort of garble and demanding that produces nothing. If it happens, it will happen and we'll get a patch or a new PIC. Let's just be happy we have FS2002 and it, PIC767, work fine in that. Now go fly and end this thread.

If they do in fact decide to get out of FS development for good, I think releasing the 767PIC source code to the community would be a great idea. We have a lot of talented programmers here who could put it to good use - it's still the best AFDS and FMC implementation ever done, and it'd be great if others knew how to duplicate and improve upon it IF WELP decide to bow out.Ryan

I've been reading all the threads on 2K4 and PIC and whether it will be patched, and to be honest (as I've said before) I hope that there will be a patch for 2K4, along with everyone else.On my system (owning RFP, DF737, PSS 7x7, and PIC), this is still the only aircraft that I fly in the MSFS world (I use PS13 for my 744 flights). I'll qualify this by saying that I haven't flown the airbus packages, so I can't compare the above aircraft with any of the MS Boeing packages - I'm not really into Airbus.Having said that, look at the community we have here - people developing addons, people attempting to learn better how things really work and handle the aircraft, real pilots who drop by, people who have stopped through because they're working on type ratings, and generally it seems like people still hold this aircraft (I know I do) to be the standard others stive to attain in the MSFS world. The following is almost PS1-like. I hope there's a patch (or a whole new panel) in the works on the QT - it would be a real shame for this aircraft, which still has leading-edge unreproduced features, to fade away now that the underlying SIM has finally caught up to it in some of its features. Finally, we can get a step climb out of ATC. Finally, we have multiple runways. Finally we (aparantly) have the ability to do proper SID/STAR. Finally we have environments where clouds are rendered properly. Finally we have a world where the people in the tower won't let a Cessna take off with a VFR flightplan with 1/4SM R -TS. Even more the shame since it seems like so much is already working - even if you do have to (currently) run it in an undocked window. Fact is that it *does* display - which seems to be a good sign (although not a guarantee) for the ability to make less-than-wholesale changes and get things going.I just hope that the patch is done on the QT, hopefully this will help avoid the debacle that happened last time. I'd rather not know that one is coming and see the clamor to release it regardless of state like last time, and come in here one morning and see a note from Wade, Eric, Pedro, or Laurent that says "We've released a new package, buy it here" or "We've released a patch, it here".If not, it is Wade, Eric, Pedro, and Laurent's product, they're the only ones who can make the decision, and we have to live with it and move on. Meanwhile, as everyone else has already pointed out - FS2K2 still runs fine on my box. So, I get my 2K4 fix by flying the GA stuff (their 400 is still laughable) and drool over the new clouds/scenery, and go back to 2K2 for my real flying.Peace all.P