Thanks Lenny,That error was a byproduct of always thinking of in terms of 12.5 equating to 12,500 and sleep depravation. Plus, I am one of those American Metrically Challenged individuals anyway. LOLMike

American Metrically Challenged= AMC= Gremlin, Pacer etc...

HOLDING PROCEDURES USA Note that Holding Speeds and Timings in the USA are different from the ICAO standards 6000ft & Belowspeed 200 knots / 1 minute holds6000ft to 14000ftspeed 230 knots (210 where published) / 1 minute holdsAbove 14000ftspeed 265 knots / 1.5 minute holdsadvise ATC if higher speed requiredAltimeter Changeover ProceduresThe following applies when descending thru the Transition Level of Fl180 in the USA.Altimeter settings referred to are the regional setting below the transition level.Altimeter 29.92 or higherSet New setting at FL180Altimeter Setting Between 29.42 & 29.91Set New setting at FL185Altimeter Setting Between 28.92 & 29.41Set New setting at FL190Altimeter Setting Between 28.42 & 28.91Set New setting at FL195Altimeter Setting Between 27.92 & 28.41Set New setting at FL200

ok thanks for the information,please note, i havent learnt to do holds in my PMDG737 yet,and also is there a alternative airport somewhere like 1500 NM from PNC where i can go, as i have an important thing to do at 4pm local (0600Z) on that saturday.regardsClayton

I'll try my best to be on Edmonton Centre, the non radar should be a blast!

Actually.... I'll be working :(Sorry, but I will see about getting someone else to man the position.

Roses are red and violets are blue, out of 18, 29.92.

3 hours to pushback, my alarm just went off, time to toss your things together and S, S, & S.

Mike,Will you be using Team Speak? I see your server is still up.

Yes, will be on my TS server for optional company freqMike

HEY GUYS!!Have fun on "the run"....I'm hitting the sack in a few minutes. I have a 0600 wake up for a 0900 launch KMSP to KSEA, then on to KDTW. Sunday has me KDTW to KLAS, then a "dayover" leaveing at 0110 on monday morning for the "all nighter" to KMSP arriving here at 0605....an easy three day trip (actually, just a 2 1/2 dayer in my book).I'll be thinking about all you dudes....remember..."blue side goes up".later gents,BBall-------------------Capt. William "BBall" BallBoeing 757, Northwest AirlinesSenior Editorwww.frugalsworld.com

Thanks Bill for all the help setting this up. We just completed Day1 and I am exhausted. Have a great and safe road trip.Mike Bevington

Great run....and more to come.Day 2...outstanding ATC all around...Looking forward to day 3.Rob,

Well I was exhausted by the time we sat down in MSP this evening. I had a great time with a bunch of good friends with some really great ATC.To all that participated and supported the flight, a great bigThank You

Mike,I had a great time. Thanks for setting it up.My apologizes to Bill for straying into his approach lane during the landing at MCO. I overshot my runway (18R) "a little" and hopefully recovered in time. I didn't hear any TCAS warning.