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SYSTEM MEMORY!!!! That is what is holding FSX BACK!!!!!!!!!

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Hi To all:This is my spec PC Intel Pentium 4 Processor 3.2Ghz @ 800mHz with 1MB Cache LGA 775Prizion 2GB DDR RAM PC.3200 400MHz Dual Channel120 GB Seagate SerialATA 150 Hard Drive // 7200rpmnVidia GF6600GT - PCI-Express 256MB DDR.And with that I do have FPS about 5-9 with most slider at less then half way, except Traffic AI at 75% and Scenery at detailed, and Airport cars at high.Do you guys think by adding an extra 1GB or RAM that will help.Any help will be much appreciated.ThanksWalouigi

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Adding another 1 GB of ram would be a waste of money.

My g-d, the advice here is purely laughable, lets all run out and buy an extra gig when no one can verify FSX using more than 1.3-1.6 gigs and an OS that uses 170 megs when tuned right so NO ONE is using more than two gigs of physical memory LOL. Has a single person reported using over 2 gigs of physical memory? Why add more if you are not even using what you have?Then, lets all move our swap and disable the previous one when you SHOULD KNOW if you are making those types of suggestions that if you do not create a swap of 2-50 for a mini-dump 2-200 for a larger dump or enough swap for a full memory dump on your O/S drive based on your dump configurations no additional swap files will be properly recognized. The only way for that example to work would be if you were to create a small swap on your O/S drive, like I said 2-50 is sufficient and THEN move your swap to a seperate HD. But then again, if they are on the same controller it is still not buying you anything and furthermore, RAM is always faster than HD...People, get your facts straight please before other start spending money and making modifications that may provide no value at all or even worse will adversely affect their system.-PaulPrimary RigLiquid CooledAMD FX-57 @ 3 gigsAsus A8NSLI-Premium2 gigs Corsair XMS PC3500LL 2 3 2 6 1TXFX 7900 GTX 690/1750XFX 7800 GTX 515/135024 inch Widescreen LCDDual 19 inch LCD'sRaid-0+1PCPower and Cooling 1khttp://home.comcast.net/~psolk/3monitorsa.htmlBackup RigAMD 4000 San Diego @ 2.72 Gigs Kingston Corsair XMS CL2XFX 7800 GTX 515/1350 Raid-0psolk.jpg

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I have 2 GB's and get 20 FPS (locked) with reasonable graphic settings.Ok, here's an idea I had:Stuttering was caused by the texture memory being filled with necessary textures for rendering the scene, with DirectX's caching algorithms. getting in the way. Sometimes works, sometimes not, like all caching algorithms.So, the devs decide to make FSX do more intelligent texture management on it's own. This would cause much more bandwidth to the card, and bigger textures use more system memory. The FPS would be lower, but the performance would be more consistent? Please don't flame me for trying to make an educated guess, okay? :)Ok, FS needs 1.3-1.7 or something. 300-700MB left over for the system isn't that much. So you're 3rd GB would probably help for the OS and other stuff still running.I believe 2 GB would be a per PROCESS limit. OS's these days like to split memory down the middle (4GB limit on 32-bit) so that leaves 2GB.This switch probably moves where the split is done. So FS has enough with 1.7 GB in one process, while the system etc can live in the remaing GB. Now, what happens when an add-on pushes the running FS process OVER 2GB?????:)

I suspect the simple reason why your systems are only using 1.3-1.5 megs of your 2g of ram is that Windows probably limits by percentage how much ram to give to one program. So that there is ram left over for when other programs pop up and need to start running.Thus it makes sense that by going from 2gigs to 3 gigs the system will use more than 1.3-1.5 gigs. It may in fact use a full 2gigs or more if you go to the full 4gigs and invoke the 3gig max option.A simple test is to measure the memory usage at 2gigs, then again at 3 and again at 4. If FSX never consumes more than 1.5gigs then you know it

It seams some testing is the way to go.About the swap thing: I never needed that mini-dump on OS drive. In fact to enable my swap on 2nd drive I did disable first the one in C:, reboot (u'll need good 512Mb physical ram) then went on to enable the swap were i want it, reboot. Set a fixed size one and don't let other progs mess with that drive. that's all.It worked... it's working right now!but hey.. if somehow you can educate me better, could you point me some links. I don't mind the work. I'll even do a post with (y)our findings.my chips are a bit yellow now... overburned, but with ketchup they're ok.regardsPedro

This is, indeed, very good advice. Even with all the sliders moved to the right to maximize the texture loads I've never used over 1.7GB. And, remember also, adding more RAM does nothing for the framerate.Doug

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My best freind owns a computer store and I can pretty much experiment with what I want. Im busy this week but will try to run by the shop late WED or Thrs and throw in some more ddr2.My setup is a FX-62 dual core,7900gtx,RAPTOR 150, and 2 gigs ddr2 800.I will try 3 and 4 and see what happens.BTW- I also tried the x6800 intel and the 7950gtx and didnt noticed any difference. Everyone said the intel duos were going to smoke AMD but at least IMO, FSX was no better or worse. If my past experinces with loading up on ram mean anything,I suspect there will be no difference.

Well I really don't see this being an FSX problem solving issue, I am on a AMD 64 X2 4200+ with 4 gigs of Ram and an ATI XT1900 GTX and I can run FSX but not worth the lowered graphics. My sliders have to be about 30% and if you want to throw in light bloom and cars and boats and all that crap you can forget it. Plus I don't care what people say with GE Pro and FSE and the other addons I have FS9 looks just as good as FSX. to me anyways. I find it truly hard to believe that there are people out there that are running FSX with any kind of fluidity and its truly where they want it to be or look like.

>It seams some testing is the way to go.>>About the swap thing: I never needed that mini-dump on OS>drive. In fact to enable my swap on 2nd drive I did disable>first the one in C:, reboot (u'll need good 512Mb physical>ram) then went on to enable the swap were i want it, reboot.>Set a fixed size one and don't let other progs mess with that>drive. that's all.>>It worked... it's working right now!>but hey.. if somehow you can educate me better, could you>point me some links. I don't mind the work. I'll even do a>post with (y)our findings.>>my chips are a bit yellow now... overburned, but with ketchup>they're ok.>>regards>>PedroPedro, As requested, here are some links... You might not be running like you think you are ;)http://www.petri.co.il/pagefile_optimization.htmAnd then from an article written by:Virtual Memory in Windows XPVersion 1.6

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I'm running my sliders about 30%, with AI traffic about 20, cars and boats off. I also have all the tweaks installed, and I get now 20 FPS average. I do hit the 30 mark if I climb above 10K, but I fly VFR so it's usually low altitude. By Task Manager and nTune monitor, my usage is disk 0-15% processor 97-100% memory 47% I'm getting no studders, but textures don't really load up fast enough so it's a little blury at times. So I'm interested to know if going to 3G is really gonna do the trick. I've played around with the pagefile and it doesn't really do anything.

The looks maybe similar.. ( I have the same addons)...but the flying is totally different, FS 9 is just flying without the plane really moving..

RE: http://www.petri.co.il/pagefile_optimization.htmI should warn you guys that some of the information on that page could be a little better.For example, he talks about setting maximum and minimum values for the size of the page file. Later, he discusses de-fragmenting the drive. You should know that if you take the maximum, and use it for both max AND min size you will lock the pagefile at a specific size... thus eliminating fragmentation altogether.btw: More memory isn't what boosting your frames here, that much I can tell you for sure. The only time it's going to boost your framerate is if you didn't have enough memory to begin with until the upgrade. If you had one gig in your system, then sure, more ram = better overall performance plus a few extra frame rates because everything needed is in memory now and not being swapped. If you had 2 gigs and are now running four, there is something else that has led you to believe you have increased frames.When I am running FSX, 1.3GB is used, Windows bumps that up to 1.7GB, leaving .3GB to play with. This whole time, my page file is only commited to 2-300MB and sits dormant the whole time FSX runs... so really, page file will do nothing for you if you have at least 2GB.Also, something to add to performance enhancing Windows, having three separate drives will REALLY increase your performance a whole lot. One drive to boot from and store the OS, one for the game, and one for your swap file. A step farther would be to actually make sure your drives are on different channels, (if you are using IDE.) For example, having two drives on the same IDE ribbon is most surely holding back some performance, as the IDE low-level functions actually deal with a single drive at one time. I'm not sure about SATA though, I've yet to do any testing with that, been a while. Personally I think that SATA did away with the old channeling problems of IDE, but I never actually read up on it.Something else that is being missed.... how hot are you running? Is FSX pushing your system? Sure it is, if all you can get is 10fps over a major city then you can rest assured that your machine is as hot as it can get. Check it out, evaluate your cooling if needed.... especially chipset.... can't stress that enough.

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Lord...look at the weaponry YOU HAVE! Sheesh...lol.You have got to be winning in all of this...Having a blast now, Triangle. Having a blast. FSX finally now truly ROCKS, bar none! Yes..I don't have 30 FPS, but FSX at 18 steady, is equal in animation to 30 in prior's....My system is staying on the desktop!Mitch R.

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