No problems like you describe here. The most noticed improvements for me are 1) it feels exactly like a Baron yoke 2) it is "heavier" like a baron 3)the feel is more substantial (still not real but closer) than the chpro 4) I like the buttons on the yoke and the way you can program it. 5) the usb base in the unit is great!The throttle is extremely good-and if I hadn't already bought a chthrottle which is attached to my real Baron quad I'd immediately buy another and chain them together. Much more subtantial and solid than the ch throttle.Again-the only thing I don't like is the lack of a flap/gear switch on the unit. I did put the throttle quad up-disabled the throttles, and am using those switches-but it takes up a lot of room.I am also considering removing the base on the bottom-and just fastening the unit permanently to my desk-keeping my sliding keyboard drawer below. The sleekness of it along with the flat top makes it more condusive to a permanent fixing like this.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

Thanks Geofa, but I returned my Yoke today for a refund. It was terrible.Saitek told me that their shop should be getting new batch of yokes end of November, so I might get one from them directly. And if it doesn't work out, then I can get a refund inside of 14 days. Going to give it one more chance, and if THAT doesn't work out, bye bye Saitek.

Hi guys,I got one of the very first yoke/TQs to be released. It has been terrible! I understand via some of the posts that the early yokes were/are bad? It is almost unusable as the view cycles often and sometimes one thrust axis will go to max uncommanded. Has anyone exchanged the yokes for a new one? As I'm sure my vendor may not be willing to exchange it due to the length of time since I bought it, I'm wondering if any of you have corresponded with Saitek directly about the problem and if they are willing to make an exchange via warranty.Any help/ideas are appreciated!Terry

Your vendor, whatever it is, should exchange the yoke because it is a known error. It can't be that long since it isn't out that long.I read about Saitek exchanging directly the yokes if you send it to them directly. I would suggest contacting Saitek directly about that.I read that newer yokes are performing as they should and that there are no more phantom button pushes.

Word Not Allowed,I see that you have overclocked your E6600. I've got the same hardware that you do and was wandering how you go about overclocking it or did you have somebody do it for you?My spec's are: E6600, P5B-E motherboard, 4gig of DDR2-800 ram, ATI X1600/1650 w/512meg and a Hitachi 250gig H.D...Any help would be appreciated. I'm a novice at this so go easy if you care to answer me.Regards,jack

>I read about Saitek exchanging directly the yokes if you send>it to them directly. I would suggest contacting Saitek>directly about that.>I read that newer yokes are performing as they should and that>there are no more phantom button pushes.I contacted Saitek support asking for information on exchanging or repairing the yoke as I liked it... got no reply. I kept e-mailing them until I finally got a short reply telling me to return it to where I got it. (barely within the exchange window btw). This was a major pain as I purchased online, so I had to box everything back up and ship it. Fortunately Amazon was good about it (although it still took me a long time to get my money back). Needless to say I was very disappointed by the whole thing, especially since I was a person who used to sing nothing but praise for Saitek. I still use their X52 joystick now and like it (would prefer a yoke, but I hate the CH one and this one never worked). I understand technical problems, but was disappointed when they would not even repair the yoke for me. I've never heard of a company that would refuse an RMA, usually that is what they encourage...

I feel very lucky after reading this thread. I ordered way back in August and was a little bummed I did not get mine as promised. I just got mine a few days ago-I have none of the problems reported-and I am elated with the unit. I don't like hearing about the poor customer service and hope you guys can get your problems resolved-and perhaps a later unit that works!I also have decided that I will mount my unit permanently under the desk (more realistic) and make up for the lack of a gear/flap/trim switch by getting the goflight trim/flap/gear unit. I'll post some pictures when done-but I am really elated with the unit. But then again I fly a Baron-and the "feel" is really calibrated for this plane!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

>Word Not Allowed,>>I see that you have overclocked your E6600. I've got the same>hardware that you do and was wandering how you go about>overclocking it or did you have somebody do it for you?>>My spec's are: E6600, P5B-E motherboard, 4gig of DDR2-800 ram,>ATI X1600/1650 w/512meg and a Hitachi 250gig H.D...>>Any help would be appreciated. I'm a novice at this so go easy>if you care to answer me.>>Regards,>jackNo, I did my own overclocking, as I have been doing this for couple of years already, and I bought the E6600 with the aim to overclock it.Let me just tell you in front, it is not a simple thing. There is not much to overclocking really, but making it stable is another thing.Unfortunately, I could write you here an essay about how to overclock, but in the end, it comes to trying different settings. Keep in mind that higher clock means higher temperatures. You have to monitor those - always use 100% CPU (with Orthos or Prime) and you gradually up the V-Core, together with the FSB, which again pulls the memory clock with it, where again memory wants higher voltage settings. And then again, chipset usually also wants higher voltages to run the CPU stable...All that means higher temperatures.For that, I have watercooling in my PC, which gives me much of the headroom concerning temperatures, and also ASUS mainboard, which gives me lots of settings to play with.Now, I don't really know your options in BIOS by heart, but from what I read above, if you have decent cooling in your PC, you should be able to go definitely over 3,0.I can even reach 4,0, but it simply heats up too much on the CPU, and I should build in more fans to cool the radiator, but I just didn't see such performance increase. Though, from 2,4 to 3,3, there is around 20-30% more performance. Don't know the numbers today, but back then when I measured it, it surely mattered.A very good website I used for learning about overclocking is here:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php (you have to register, but that shouldn't be the problem, right? :))You have to read lots of tutorials about overclocking altogether, cuz only way to effectively overclock is know what you are doing.And always keep in mind: overclocking CAN ruin your hardware if you run it too hot. Intels have built in protection system against running too hot, but if it gets burned, you will have to buy a new one :)Anyway, I never burned anything, so, hopefully, after you have read some materials, you will be running quite much faster.Hope this helps.

>>I read about Saitek exchanging directly the yokes if you>send>>it to them directly. I would suggest contacting Saitek>>directly about that.>>I read that newer yokes are performing as they should and>that>>there are no more phantom button pushes.>>I contacted Saitek support asking for information on>exchanging or repairing the yoke as I liked it... got no>reply. I kept e-mailing them until I finally got a short>reply telling me to return it to where I got it. (barely>within the exchange window btw). This was a major pain as I>purchased online, so I had to box everything back up and ship>it. Fortunately Amazon was good about it (although it still>took me a long time to get my money back). >>Needless to say I was very disappointed by the whole thing,>especially since I was a person who used to sing nothing but>praise for Saitek. I still use their X52 joystick now and>like it (would prefer a yoke, but I hate the CH one and this>one never worked). >>I understand technical problems, but was disappointed when>they would not even repair the yoke for me. I've never heard>of a company that would refuse an RMA, usually that is what>they encourage...Oddly interesting!Saitek emailed me back right away and asked for all my info and said to do NOTHING until I receive a replacement unit from them with an RMA for the faulty unit! They said that there was a firmware issue with the first units (mine) and that they would be replacing them as they received requests. I replied this morning and am awaiting the new unit. They didn't say how long it would take.Terry

>Saitek emailed me back right away and asked for all my info>and said to do NOTHING until I receive a replacement unit from>them with an RMA for the faulty unit! They said that there>was a firmware issue with the first units (mine) and that they>would be replacing them as they received requests. I replied>this morning and am awaiting the new unit. They didn't say>how long it would take.>>Terry>Now that is a nice thing. Also Saitek told me, if I order from Germany, I have 14 days return-policy. So, if I don't like it, its going to cost me 10

>>Saitek emailed me back right away and asked for all my info>>and said to do NOTHING until I receive a replacement unit>from>>them with an RMA for the faulty unit! They said that there>>was a firmware issue with the first units (mine) and that>they>>would be replacing them as they received requests. I>replied>>this morning and am awaiting the new unit. They didn't say>>how long it would take.>>>>Terry>>>>Now that is a nice thing. Also Saitek told me, if I order from>Germany, I have 14 days return-policy. So, if I don't like it,>its going to cost me 10

Before fiddling with voltages and cooling, see what you can do by simply increasing the FSB frequency. That should buy you some performance and if you track the temperature, you can feel comfortable that you are still within "safe" limits.

>I feel very lucky after reading this thread. I ordered way>back in August and was a little bummed I did not get mine as>promised. I just got mine a few days ago-I have none of the>problems reported-and I am elated with the unit. I don't like>hearing about the poor customer service and hope you guys can>get your problems resolved-and perhaps a later unit that>works!>>I also have decided that I will mount my unit permanently>under the desk (more realistic) and make up for the lack of a>gear/flap/trim switch by getting the goflight trim/flap/gear>unit. I'll post some pictures when done-but I am really elated>with the unit. But then again I fly a Baron-and the "feel" is>really calibrated for this plane!>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg>Forum Moderator>http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/I'm glad to hear other people enjoying their Saitek yoke system. I received mine back in mid-october (2nd wave of shipments) and have never had a problem.

I would definitely recommend this to anyone if you have the cash http://www.aviationmegastore.com/?shopid=L...d=287&art=65485Rob

>>Word Not Allowed,>>>>I see that you have overclocked your E6600. I've got the>same>>hardware that you do and was wandering how you go about>>overclocking it or did you have somebody do it for you?>>>>My spec's are: E6600, P5B-E motherboard, 4gig of DDR2-800>ram,>>ATI X1600/1650 w/512meg and a Hitachi 250gig H.D...>>>>Any help would be appreciated. I'm a novice at this so go>easy>>if you care to answer me.>>>>Regards,>>jack>>No, I did my own overclocking, as I have been doing this for>couple of years already, and I bought the E6600 with the aim>to overclock it.>Let me just tell you in front, it is not a simple thing. There>is not much to overclocking really, but making it stable is>another thing.>Unfortunately, I could write you here an essay about how to>overclock, but in the end, it comes to trying different>settings. Keep in mind that higher clock means higher>temperatures. You have to monitor those - always use 100% CPU>(with Orthos or Prime) and you gradually up the V-Core,>together with the FSB, which again pulls the memory clock with>it, where again memory wants higher voltage settings. And then>again, chipset usually also wants higher voltages to run the>CPU stable...>All that means higher temperatures.>For that, I have watercooling in my PC, which gives me much of>the headroom concerning temperatures, and also ASUS mainboard,>which gives me lots of settings to play with.>Now, I don't really know your options in BIOS by heart, but>from what I read above, if you have decent cooling in your PC,>you should be able to go definitely over 3,0.>I can even reach 4,0, but it simply heats up too much on the>CPU, and I should build in more fans to cool the radiator, but>I just didn't see such performance increase. Though, from 2,4>to 3,3, there is around 20-30% more performance. Don't know>the numbers today, but back then when I measured it, it surely>mattered.>A very good website I used for learning about overclocking is>here:>http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php (you have to>register, but that shouldn't be the problem, right? :))>You have to read lots of tutorials about overclocking>altogether, cuz only way to effectively overclock is know what>you are doing.>And always keep in mind: overclocking CAN ruin your hardware>if you run it too hot. Intels have built in protection system>against running too hot, but if it gets burned, you will have>to buy a new one :)>Anyway, I never burned anything, so, hopefully, after you have>read some materials, you will be running quite much faster.>>Hope this helps.Word Not Allowed,Thanks for the in-depth reply. Since I'm a novice at all this technical info, I'm thinking about taking my computer to a shoppe and having them over-clock it. I'm a little nervous when the possibility of frying the processor comes up....Regards,jack>