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Personaly I would try 1600fsb/800mem with a 8 multiplier for a net 3200mhz @ 1.4volts.This will give you 3.2ghz and allow your memory to run at full speed. It will also give you a faster FSB which FSX likes.Two programs I like for testing overclocks are OCCP and Everest.OCCP will allow you to stress 4 cores and I use Everest to supply temp data to OCCP because it works with Vista x64. Everest is a very usefull program in it's own right.After finding stability try lowering vcore and recheck stability. If you're lucky you may be stable in the 1.38v region which naturaly will reduce heat.Although stressing 4 cores with something like orthos, prime, or occp is a great way to test, realize that they will heat a cpu to a temp it isn't likely to obtain under heavy "normal" useage. So while they are a great indication, they should be taken with a grain of salt. In my experience something like OCCP will heat up a cpu much more than FSX ever will. Particularly so because they will run all 4 cores to max and that much heat will saturate the heat sink. http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Downloadhttp://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.p...3&ps=UE〈=enAnd congrats to you Boeing on your first overclock, same to Geoffa and the rest of you guys. We all love getting some goodness for nothing, overclocking turns into an addictive lifelong hobby for most once they start. Done properly absolutely no harm is done, but much is gained. Especialy with a hog like FSX.

Thanks! I've settled at 3.12 GHz on a 1380 MHz FSB, with DDR2-829 RAM. Idling at 40-47C and FSX EVERYTHING MAXED at 52-60C getting 7-15 FPS. Prime95 runs from 78-81C+. Measured using Coretemp. I am done for now.But I have a question. Say, for example you had to run more than a mile and after you reached the end of your tether, you were forced to keep on going. Very stressful. I don't want to put a stress like this on the CPU when it is overclocked to more than 25% of what it was meant to run at. I don't want that to decrease its lifespan either.

Nah, it's designed to run in the 80s (Tj, right?). But the bottom line is not about making a CPU happy.

If you can run FSX with 60 degree readings, you are more than safe.Assuming we are talking about Tj the temperature reading for the cores, that you get from Coretemp, you can safely go to 80 degrees and have room left over.

Yes it's Tj. Thanks. I'll consult my father and let everyone know if I overclock higher.I read somewhere overclocking decreases the life of the CPU. This is creeping ME out! I don't want to replace it in just 2-3 years. My old P4 lasted 7 years! What is the normal life of a Q6600 and how much will overclocking to 3-3.3 GHz affect the life?

2-3 years? LOL, try less than 12 months. Right, google it..That should keep his dad($$$$$$) worrying a bit. LOL

Oh my...:-eek:o

>2-3 years? LOL, try less than 12 months. Right, google it..>>That should keep his dad($$$$$$) worrying a bit. LOL12 months? No chance, the CPU, even when overclocked will last a lot lot longer! Remember, even when its overclocked, if your not doing anything CPU intensive, its just idling... If it were only going to last 12 months when overclocked, a LOT less people would be doing it! I once ran an old Intel overclocked for 3 years without a hiccup. As long as you keep sensible temperatures, you will be fine!

Thank you very much, that's good to know! I frequently shut down the machine when I am not using it and I have Speedstep and C1E enabled, so when idling, the CPU is around just 2-2.1 GHz.

You will be fine then, unless you play on FSX 24/7, which is highly unlikely (and if you do I must remind you there is a real world outside!)You really have nothing to worry about, these CPU's can go up to 70C if I am correct? I simply dont let mine past 65C (rarely gets to 60C under load).

In the old P4 days, 60C were run temps and Tne (Temperature-never exceed) was 70C. The old guys are still stuck there. It's a whole new world These days. The concept of "wear" is entirely misapplied to an electronic component. Electronic components do not "wear." Therefore, electronic components do not "wear-out." If thermal limits are observed, an electronic component will last ForEver. A P4 that "lasted" 7 years. Did someone finally hit it with a hammer?The thermal limit on a Q6600 is 95C/Tj. Further, this CPU has a built-in protection system. If the CPU's Tj hits this pre-damage temperature, it will throttle back to maintain 95C/Tj. If this primary protection system fails, it has a secondary system. If the CPU hits 100C, this back-up protection system will shut down the CPU to prevent damage. Why has Intel gone to all this trouble? Simply, Reliability and to (therefore) reduce frivolous warranty claims. Server farms stack blade-type servers up like cordwood. They are not coddled under Thermalright Ultramatic 5000XX coolers like we have. Their cooling is kept to an economic minimum. They are running hot to begin with. If a cooling bank fails, 100 CPUs could be effected. Intel got tired of replacing CPUs because customers were providing inadequite cooling. Intel could have put the Q6600's throttling event anywhere. "So," they considered, "let's put it at a thermal level that will damage our CPU, then we can replace it?" Don't think so. 95C is a pre-damage limit level. Over 100C is where damage occurs. Intel's service calls became "low performance levels." Intel visits the site and prescribes better cooling. Their CPUs are throttling away, . . . Without Damage. Or Intel could have placed their thermal throttling event to a temperature that could damage their CPUs. In this case they could either replace all those CPUs or give their multi-gizillion $$ customer the bad news. Setting that throttling temperature was simply a decision at some point in the design process. What would have been the smart call? Where would You have put it? What's this 71C Tc then? Tc runs about 10C cooler than the average Tj. If one has a Tj spread of 76 to 86, then Tj(average) will be about 81C. Since Tc runs 10C cooler than Tj(average), that allows a user to set a 71C Tc. That will run a Tj (max) well into the 80sC. This mid-80C Tj area is a nice buffer from the 95C Tj throttling event. It gives a room for a little thermal this and a little thermal that with no effect. The server farm can cut a cooling corner or two (of course they would Never do that!) and Intel's CPUs troop on without a performance problem. Mid 80C Tj is fine. That's where the Q6600 was designed to run.

>You guys are way above my overclock iq!>In any case I just overclocked (never overclocked in my life)>my core duo e6750 2.66 ghz to 3.3.>Thanks! 10 fps higher in fsx! Should I be going higher? I have>a p5k but set most at automatic settings. >>That's 333 x 8 = 2.66 stock,now you are:about 410 x 8 = about 3.3So that's 410 bus speed; I would THINK your mem could go a little higher (410 is only 10 over stock 400 for DDR2 memory) with zero problems, but you never know since you are indeed over rated mem speed now.But the real question is, if you've gotten 10 more fps, how much more would a little more o/c get you? You will want to determine that. 425 x 8=3.4 ghz. Would that extra .1 ghz really do anything meaningful in the sim? Versus a possible instability trade-off? The only way to know is by testing on your machine. I'd go for the max stable overclock.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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