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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all,I have noticed some good reports indicating you should add FSGenesis as an addon to FS9. Since I plan to continue with FS9 I plan to add a few more goodies. I now have FE and GE. I need help in buying some FSGenesis software. First, I am not sure what the initial purchase should be. I do want to start with the US and Canada and probably populate Europe in the near future but am a little confused about the resoloution, landclass etc. I guess you start with US 76.4m which appears to cover the US except Alaska but then you can add on top of that the west coast at 38.2m and other parts of the US at a 38.2M. Should I pick up each area with the 38.2m since it should be better or buy both the US and each section at the lower mesh? Then I notice you can add a 9.6m for certain areas. Ater all that you can add Landclass, which I guess will enhance FS9 even more. Then there is something called "world buffer". Maybe that is used if you purchased the DVD. As you can see I need a plan on the process or pecking order on how to go about this.Finally what maybe the most economically way of doing this. It looks iike I can get a 40% off if I purchase 5 or more sections??. Well I hope this is not to confusnig. Before I take the plundge I would appreciate any comments from those that are already enjoying FSG.CarlDell 510, P4-3.4Ghz, 2gram, 7600GS Pcie

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I think mesh is the single most important thing you can add to your flight sim. Then GE and and FE(or something similar) and you have that. I also think you are on the right path as far as what to get. Prices have been coming down for mesh lately, I suspect due to more competition so you sound like a perfect candidate for GS Genesis "get it all" package for $100 for three years. It's a bit more for a lifetime.Covering the entire world with new 76M mesh will greatly enhance the sim but it does require a lot of space. I went for the whole world from FSGlobal2005 as there prices were best at the time although the Genesis mesh is probably more highly regarded. It has worked well for me and I think the total hit was about 12 Gigs just going from memory before getting into the 38M or 9.6. I store my mesh on a different drive to spread the load out over 2 drives. Try out the free mesh from genesis, I think there is about 25 regions in their download section right down to 9.6. Vancouver Island is in there and is excellent in 38M.The main page at FSGenesis has a link to the best descriptions I've ever seen of mesh/landclass/etc.

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Howdy, and Merry Christmas.My first suggestion is for you to get the Genesis freeware DL of Vancouver Island. You WILL! see a huge difference immediately.Try their freeware first and then decide which areas you might want to pay for. I have the 38 meter west coast US and it is very, very nice.I just bought the Genesis 9 meter mesh of Grand Teton National Park this morning and it is outstanding! The detail blew me out of my chair. I set up a gorgeous sunrise with Flight Environment and went for a slo biplane cruise. Just unbelievable. A great, great flight.Try the Vancouver Island freeware first.http://portal.fsgenesis.net/index.php?name...sdownload&sid=2(Second from bottom of screen.)

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Do they have a "All in one " North America download or do you have download different regin's one buy one?Thanks,

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From Genesis web site it looks like 5 downloads for about $12 each less 40% discount. N. Canada, S.Canada, Alaska, S. United States, Mexico and the Carib. Going from memory I thing NA was one disk from FSGlobal with the Caribbean on a different disk. Either way good bang for the FS9 buck IMO, especially at those prices.

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The area covered depends on the resolution - the higher the res, the smaller the area.I think you can get the whole US in one package at 76 meters, or in sections at 38 meters. Genesis mesh has 9 meter mesh for the whole USA in FSX. Only in small areas in 9 meter for FS9. Bummer. 9 meter mesh is da shizzle!I highly recommend trying the Genesis freeware 38 meter mesh of Vancouver Island. The island has great topography that takes advantage of the better mesh and it will give you a fantastic taste of what it does. The DL is fast and install is a one .gbl drag & drop. Couldn't be easier and the results couldn't be better.I'm seriously thinking of paying the $100 for a membership that gives gets you every product they have and every product they'll make for the next three years.

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Tried the Vancuver, Loved it. Brought the geography to life. I made an account so i can get into the store and buy what i want but there email service may be bogged down becuase of the Holiday's?

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If you can afford it, get the Galaxy membership and you get all downloads for life, its a bargin.

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>If you can afford it, get the Galaxy membership and you get>all downloads for life, its a bargin.>You might be right there? $100 bucks though.....I just want to do North America, alaska, Hawaii because thats pretty much where i fly.Thanks,

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>If you can afford it, get the Galaxy membership and you get>all downloads for life, its a bargain.>I second that. *Well* worth the $100 I spent back in 2003.The best results are obtained when you install the FSG mesh at all available resultions from 306m down to 38m. Why? Because FS loads the low-res mesh at distance and steps up to higher resolution mesh as the distance from the aircraft decreases. Use of FSG 38m mesh without 76m, 153m, and 306m mesh derived from the same terrain data can cause the terrain to "morph" noticeably when the higher res mesh is loaded as the aircraft draws near.regardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

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>>If you can afford it, get the Galaxy membership and you get>>all downloads for life, its a bargain.>>>>I second that. *Well* worth the $100 I spent back in 2003.>>The best results are obtained when you install the FSG mesh at>all available resultions from 306m down to 38m. Why? >Because FS loads the low-res mesh at distance and steps up to>higher resolution mesh as the distance from the aircraft>decreases. Use of FSG 38m mesh without 76m, 153m, and 306m>mesh derived from the same terrain data can cause the terrain>to "morph" noticeably when the higher res mesh is loaded as>the aircraft draws near.>>regards>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300>Santiago de Chile>Well said Bob, plus it stops those nasty blue slivers when you install all mesh resolutions.Best $100 ever spent.....plus I have the FSX mesh now as well as part of my membership.Glenn

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>>If you can afford it, get the Galaxy membership and you get>>all downloads for life, its a bargain.>>>>I second that. *Well* worth the $100 I spent back in 2003.>>The best results are obtained when you install the FSG mesh at>all available resultions from 306m down to 38m. Why? >Because FS loads the low-res mesh at distance and steps up to>higher resolution mesh as the distance from the aircraft>decreases. Use of FSG 38m mesh without 76m, 153m, and 306m>mesh derived from the same terrain data can cause the terrain>to "morph" noticeably when the higher res mesh is loaded as>the aircraft draws near.>>regards>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300>Santiago de Chile>That explains the "Morphing" in the Vancover mesh that i tried. Thought that was just part of the way fs9 was loading the scenery. Now that i know, $100 may be the best investment.Thanks,Now if i could only get the email from them with my password to log into thier store, then i could go spend some Christmas money.........

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Not to be picky but be sure you realize that "Vancouver Island" mesh is not for Vancouver. Even though we are only about 20 miles east of Vancouver Island, we are not there. If you are using the Vancouver Island Mesh be sure to pick up the Free Victoria City and Region Scenery that's just been added here at Avsim and also search out the CYYJ2007 airports file here too that compliments that file just great. They are all new and extremely high quality and very complete with lots of AI Ships, Boats, correct aircraft, kayaks etc. Between the mesh, the Region and the Airports it's about as good as it gets. Plan a couple amphib flights out of Victoria harbour and fly north and/or East over the Gulf Islands to Vancouver.Just wanted you to be sure on that, I'm not being critical but it will affect what you see big time if you test that mesh over Vancouver. There is Vancouver + payware add on that is a great one for Vancouver and includes high res mesh, from FS Addons. The free Victoria file I just mentioned is made by the same people.This is the free Victoria scenery file available here, search for the CYYJ airports and get the 2007 version, it will be easy to find, also here at Avsim and it's new this month. vicenh06.zip

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The other outstanding feature of FSG is Justin's support. I sent him an email request this afternoon GMT (Christmas day). Question answered shortly after! Takes some beatin that!

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Wow,I didn't realize I would get this many responses. My wife and I went away to celebrate Christmas with some friends and came back and couldn't beleive the help on FSG. Thanks so much for all that have responded. First,CanadaONe you are the one on a previous post that got me started a few days ago after I had installed the new freeware Victoria + and CYYJ-2007 scenery. You suggested the free FSG Vancover Island mesh. I did download it and installed it. This is what caused me to really see the improvement in FS9.(By the way that scenery is really great and the FSG enhanced even more.)Nes and Bob thanks for your input... Looks like there are several possibilites in the way I invest in FSG (1) Purchase all the "mesh sizes" for the US to take advantage of discount; (2) Consider lifetime purchase or (3) One Year membersip. Not sure of the benefits on the yearly or lifetime memberships. But I can't really speak to that yet since I haven't read about benefits over purchaseing separately. If it will allow unlimited downloads or something similar to that I could understand it would be a good deal and being able to use the mesh on FSX. Not sure when I will get serious with FSX, but think it will be at least another year or so. (to much invested in FS9 and tweaked for good FPS.) I just need to do a little more reseach on the memberships. Not sure but I also may have a problem with HD-space. I have 17gigs remaining but I did purchase an external HD 300gig, 7200rpm 16mb the other day. I now have FSX installed on the external drive. Did not see any hit when I moved it off the internal SATA drive.Maybe I could somehow install the mesh for FS9 on the external drive...Thanks again for your help,Carl

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"Not to be picky but be sure you realize that "Vancouver Island" mesh is not for Vancouver."No worry, we Canadians know that. Kind of like the Americans knowing that Washington state and Washington D.C. are on opposite sides of the continent. ;-) Carl,Glad you're enjoying yourself! The more us flying and having fun, the better. @-@

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I originally thought the Galaxy membership cost was too high initially (I figured I'd *never* get the use out of it). Well, I was sure wrong. It doesn't take long for a mesh addiction to take over. Once you fly using great mesh and landclass, it really isn't the same without it. I'm sure over time I've ended up spending much more than the membership cost. However, you really need to look at where you fly and how often. For me, I stick mostly to Canada and the US, however I love to hit the Caribbean as well. Not forgetting the occasional trip to Europe as well... you can see how you can end up needing lots of mesh. :)

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Well I went ahead I bought the NA and EU-AF DVDs. Thought long and hard about the membership but I figured I had already spent too much $$ these last three weeks on all the special sales. The DVDs with discount was about $38. So in a pinch to make me feel a little better I still have $62 to spend on more mesh or might finally pick up Active Sky. Carl

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Well, i could not pass it up. After flying in the free Vancouver area and the coments from others, it was just to nice looking. I went with the Galaxy option. Down loading as we speak, Boy, Those are big files.........Question:will this conflict at all with Ground Enviorment?

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just want to add that FSG is one of the best add-ons for fs9. That 100$ was easily worth the investment.and no, it won't conflict with GEPro, infact, they work super well togther...add in AV6 and you're pretty much set.FSG is mesh (terrain elevation changes)GEPro is texture-feng

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I also have AV6, after this 100 buck's my wife say's i better be set! LOL.I don't have the Pro version of GE, will that matter?Thanks for the info......

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"I also have AV6, after this 100 buck's my wife say's i better be set! LOL.I don't have the Pro version of GE, will that matter?"Ha! Now you'll have to explain the beauty and irresitability of the Andes to her. :( "But, but dear... The mountains are so high and the coastline so close, the 76 meter South American mesh affords a unique flightsim experience. And all the other guys have it."Well, I don't have it anyway. But that $100 membership is looking a bit too tempting. I've bought two $11 programs from Genesis and I see no signs of stopping. After flying over 9 & 38 meter mesh, how can I go back to 600+ meters? Might have to do what you did and get the North America DVD. That would mean I could get UT USA and then, with the other programs I already have, I'd have the whole continent at max eye-candy, which should keep me happy and flying for a good long while.But then I still "need" Active Sky6 of course. Oh my.Don't think it matters to FSGenesis a smidge if you have GE or GE Pro.(Apparently I have been remiss, according to Avsim forum tradition, by not mentioning my name. Apologies. Therefore...)

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Well let see now, in the last three weeks I have purchased two new scneeries and one Phantom II, at Cloud9 becuase of a 50% off sale, bought scenery at Aerosoft becaause of a 15% off sale, picked up C130 and F-104 at CS at better than 50% off, picked up the Columbia-400 at Eaglesoft at 30% sale and finally FSG on sale. Do you see a trend here. It looks like I am really gullable if there is a good sale going on during the holidays. I have manuals printed out to learn how to fly these new planes that may take months to learn.. Maybe just maybe AV6 might go on sale before the new year......(LOL) and to think one of the best sceneries Victoria + and CYYJ I didn't have to spend a dime....If the wife checks the checkbook anytime soon I may be off the net for awhile or maybe she will say "honey why don't you go ahead and buy me AV6 (in my dreams)..Happy New Year,Carl

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IMHO, if you haven't experienced FS9 with AS6 you need to spend that $37 right away. It is by far the best addon, ever. I had AS4.5 until recently and thought it was good enough. Boy was I wrong......My 3 year FSGenesis membership is also right up there with 'best money spent' (even though it was a gift!)FS9 is a transformed sim with all these great addons - with great performance too!!Glenn

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