Why ask for support for fs9???This thread is, and has gone far beyond everything that it was ment to!!If you can fly fs9, good. If you can't, bad.The thread is too long, please.

"The thread is too long, please."And who are you to make this accesment???

>Count me in please.>>I cannot afford to throw away my two year old P4 3.4ghz Dell>Dimension 8400 which does everything I need to do very well ->except run FSX (at least judging by my experience with the>demo). >>I have never purchased any payware add-ons. Instead, I have>been satisfied to operate with the best of the free-ware stuff>available. However, now that I have ruled out FSX (unless>reports start coming in that the patch has performed some kind>of miracle)it looks like I will be staying with FS9 for a few>years yet. So I think it is time now to begin purchasing some>of the add-ons that I have been reading so much about.>>With so much technological flux going on>(Vista,DX10,Vienna,multi-cores etc I think it might be a good>time to just sit back and enjoy what I have. My only>investment for now will be some add-ons for FS9. Investment in>new hardware can wait until some time after the next version>of FS is released if that ever happens.>>TrevorbeeTevorbee,And you have 100s of addons for you to choose from for FS9.. The Q is...are you also going to be clamouring for more addons for FS9...in addition the ones that you have not even experienced yet?MAnny

The reason the thread has 'gone on' as you say, is because most on here are 'like minded'.If you don't want to read it, your not forced to are you?We are just trying to make the devs aware of the continued support for FS9...............That's why it grows longer.

>The reason the thread has 'gone on' as you say, is because>most on here are 'like minded'.>>If you don't want to read it, your not forced to are you?>>We are just trying to make the devs aware of the continued>support for FS9...............That's why it grows longer.Plus the FSX cheerleaders keep showing up. What are they afraid of?A split market with developers not sure which way to turn?I don't really understand why anybody would be happy with the few real improvments FSX has given us versus the terrible performance hit.I LOVE the way FSX looks, but it's just not worth it in terms of performance penalty (and bugs), certainly not for a flight sim.I'm praying that SP1 offers a major improvment, but not holding my breath.......Glenn

>>Tevorbee,>>And you have 100s of addons for you to choose from for FS9..>The Q is...are you also going to be clamouring for more addons>for FS9...in addition the ones that you have not even>experienced yet?>>MAnnyMAnnyWell, I am going to be spoilt for choice that's for sure. But I would say that there are still plenty of airports and sceneries that still need to be developed for FS9, particularly in places where I like to fly. And, of course, there is always scope for improved versions of existing sceneries and aircraft. That way, FS9 has the potential to get better and better over the next several years whereas the scope for developing FSX will be well... somewhat limited (by all accounts).Trevorbee

>Already clearly stated :) - AXP will START with an fs9 A320,>then take it from there.>>regards,>MarkI'm sure they said that all versions after the A320 (A330, A340 etc) would be FSX only? :-hmmm. I hope I'm completely wrong :)

>>>>Tevorbee,>>>>And you have 100s of addons for you to choose from for FS9..>>The Q is...are you also going to be clamouring for more>addons>>for FS9...in addition the ones that you have not even>>experienced yet?>>>>MAnny>>MAnny>>Well, I am going to be spoilt for choice that's for sure. But>I would say that there are still plenty of airports and>sceneries that still need to be developed for FS9,>particularly in places where I like to fly. And, of course,>there is always scope for improved versions of existing>sceneries and aircraft. That way, FS9 has the potential to get>better and better over the next several years whereas the>scope for developing FSX will be well... somewhat limited (by>all accounts).>>TrevorbeeFair enough.Not sure where your home town is.BTW.. if you want suggestion for good scenery addons for FS9. I would recommend the following. These are my favorites.0. Base - FS genesis Mesh, Ultimate Terrain, Real Environment Pro (freeware).1. Flight Scenery Portland (combined with Megascenry Northwest and Fly Tampa's Seattle).2. The Megascenery So Cal and many of the Shez's freeware airport.3. Aerosofts German Scenery 4 (Awesome Wasserkupe airport and sloped runway) combined with Aerosoft's EDDF (Frankfurt Main)4. Aerosoft's Lukla (Nepal) airport in combination with Nepal freeware airports.5. Flight scenery Providence/Rhode Island combined with Fly tampa's Boston (freeware) + Aerosoft's Manhatten.Manny

>>These links aside, anyone can look on the can of FS9 or the>box of FSX and find credible sources from the aviation world>supporting Flight Simulator. This has been the trend since>FS98. Flight Simulator is constantly featured each year at>Oshkosh's Air Venture and many if not most airshows throughout>the world. Pretty impressive for just a game...>Of course it can be a training aid. I've known and said this for years! And I've been telling this to X-Planers for years! Now, just as FS9 can be a training aid, so can FSX, even if it's in different ways. Prove me wrong...L.Adamson

You have my support also, even though I am still a FS2002 user. I have FS2004 also, but it is on the shelf for the same reasons most of you don't want FSX. There is still a lot of FS2004 stuff, aircraft mostly, that work just fine in FS2002 and while FS2002 might not look quite as good in some respects as FS2004 or FSX, it runs great (think smooooth..) on my machine and that's what I want. No tweaking required.I have a 2004 model Dell computer with XP and lots of bells and whistles. This should be all I need or want for the next few years and don't care a whit about Windows Vista or all the new processors and video cards. I don't feel the need to keep up. When my system dies, or is no longer supported, then I will consider upgrading. Until then, by all means, please keep making stuff I can use. I thank you all for the past pleasures you have provided for making this sim a dynamite ride.Best regards,Bob

C'mon man which is it??? :-lol First you said it's no more than a game now you

No, it did not start out fine. The tenor of the original post, fully half of which was devoted to slamming FSX, made it clear that this was a thinly-veiled excuse for yet another anti-FSX rant by one of the usual suspects. You know (of course you know), one of the handful of posters who has been poisoning the environment of the FSX forum endlessly for the last several months. The very same poster, in fact, who has been making personal attacks against one of the few members of the MS development team who still choose to post here. I'm surprised it only took him until the 8th post in this thread to start calling people jerks. I notice also that yet another one of those posters has even started to have a go at Holger Sandmann, in this very thread. Why the moderators allow this sort of poisoning of the forums, I have no idea, but it absolutely needs to stop. It accomplishes nothing and diminishes everyone's enjoyment of what is supposed to be a fun hobby.

>Plus the FSX cheerleaders keep showing up. What are they>afraid of?>>A split market with developers not sure which way to turn?>>I don't really understand why anybody would be happy with the>few real improvments FSX has given us versus the terrible>performance hit.>>I LOVE the way FSX looks, but it's just not worth it in terms>of performance penalty (and bugs), certainly not for a flight>sim.>I'm praying that SP1 offers a major improvment, but not>holding my breath.......>>Glenn>Exactly, they need to see both sides.Not afraid, just showing the developers that happen to get past Dillon's diatribe that not everyone supports addons for FS9, which was the topic last I checked.FS products can take a long time to complete, even more so with FSX, sometimes over a year. Given that we do get a patch that improves performance/better hardware, I wonder how many here will be using FSX in a year, that is my point. If a developer starts a project now and it is complete in a year then many on either side will be left out, no matter which sim they choose unless the developer chooses to develop for both, which will take even longer.Unlike you I am hopeful that we all will get better performance down the road in the not so distant future.Regards, MichaelKDFWNOT anti FS9, just pro FSX!

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>C'mon man which is it??? :-lol >>First you said it's no more than a game now you

>I notice also that yet another one of those posters has even>started to have a go at Holger Sandmann, in this very thread. >Why the moderators allow this sort of poisoning of the forums,>I have no idea, but it absolutely needs to stop. It>accomplishes nothing and diminishes everyone's enjoyment of>what is supposed to be a fun hobby.>Yes, I read that too! Quite pathetic isn't it? When some of the brightest and best developers with years of experience, don't agree, then they get cut down too. A lot of kiddie mentality around here, is all I can say. It's really kind of embarrassing! :-roll L.Adamson