April 21, 200719 yr I was just perusing the Jeppesen site, and stumbled across their SimCharts page. Was really surprised to find they have rather significantly changed their marketing strategy from their old policy of selling regions separately and only for a 1-year subscription.Their site now advertises lifetime worldwide online access to their SID/STAR/approach charts for a one-time fee of US $42. That looks pretty reasonable to me.Anyone using this service yet? Is there a catch?http://www.jeppesen.com/simchartsRegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 21, 200719 yr Hi,Thanks for the head up!I just ordered, but don't have access yet. Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
April 21, 200719 yr Great find.Those ordering, please let us know what you think.$42 is more than worth it to not have to play ChartHunt! before many flights. Regards,Brian Doney
April 21, 200719 yr Thank you for drawing this to our attention. I no longer fly realworld so the (outdated) SimChart CDs still work for me -- I have ten of them. [/font size]List available upon requestSee also: Maptech] MapServer Maptech's free online resource for previewing Topographic Maps, Nautical Charts, Coastal Aerial Photos and Aeronautical Charts[/b.Maptech also publishes IAPs in PDF format and I own these on CD. It's unlikely I will run out of charts or plates any time soon.=========
April 21, 200719 yr Well, the new SimCharts doesn't work with FS9, but if I make the transition to FSX, it will be a sure buy.I love SimCharts (for FS9) and use it all the time; it's great to be able to look up approach charts, etc. on the fly AND be assured that they match their counterparts in the sim. PLUS I get to see a 'track' of my flight overlaid on the charts. AND if I really want to print ANY of the charts out, SimCharts lets me do this quickly and easily. Absolute no-brainer for solo-flying, though not absolutely useful for VATSIM/IVAO flying due to the info being dated.Anyway, I'm anxious to hear from former SimCharts users who purchase the new version and whether it's equal or greater in features. Apparently Jeppesen wasn't selling much of the FSX version so they changed their "1-year" access pass to a "lifetime" pass.
April 21, 200719 yr Personally I find the Navigraph chart service suits my purpose as I can get the charts I need for the areas of the world I fly in - usually Europe, Africa and the USA. The airports and regional charts are updated regularlyJohn John Hewson
April 21, 200719 yr Commercial Member Anyone who as purchaed it, does it make available charts for closed airports... Kai Tak (the ol VHHH or now VHHX) in particular?thxClutchProject 9Dragons Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, Gigabyte GeForce 5080 RTX, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!) Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11), EVGA 1300W PSUNetgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displaysFull array of Bravo, Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit. Varjo and HP VR headsets for mixed reality.
April 21, 200719 yr Author >Personally I find the Navigraph chart service suits my>purpose as I can get the charts I need for the areas of the>world I fly in - usually Europe, Africa and the USA. The>airports and regional charts are updated regularlyIt's an option if you want to fly to a place Navigraph covers. They don't have a single approach plate for Chile (and many other places), unfortunately.Plus, you only get a one-time download of a particular airfield from NaviGraph. If you want to update the charts later, it costs you more credits.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 21, 200719 yr Navigraph seems good, but to be quite honest, I'm not interested as much in regular updates as I am with overall completeness. *Personal Opinion Alert !*I honestly feel that this need to update with every cycle actually does more harm than good. We're in a situation now where navdata and procedure files are so out of sync, I wonder what's the point ? Regards,Brian Doney
April 21, 200719 yr Author Just got the new SimCharts 4.0 fired up here.The charts are dated (2003-2005 vintage), probably based on the same dataset used to build the FSX scenery bgls. No idea if there will be any updates, but suspect not.No Kai-Tek...has the current VHHH airport.I'll still be using the current charts from the FAA NACO site for US flying, but the jepp charts have some things the FAA data doesn't have, like gate charts. And in those places where the airports haven't changed too much, the color Jepps are nicer than the B&W FAA plates. For international flying it provides coverage I don't otherwise have.The integrated chart viewer only works with FSX, but there is also a standalone viewer that can be launched without running FSX.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 21, 200719 yr So it could be run then on a separate PC for viewing ?Thanks for taking a look :) Regards,Brian Doney
April 21, 200719 yr I'm going to look into it a bit more but if it works on my second computer I'm getting it. I don't even want to be up to date if FS9 isn't. I'm always looking for terminal charts, I'm not organized enough and I spend more time looking than flying then they don't agree with FS9 anyway. I still haven't found a set of VFR sectionals for North America, anyone have a good source.
April 21, 200719 yr That's exactly the way I feel. Only my opinion of course, but it seems that the online flying community is what drives this incessant update cycle, and as such, things are never quite in sync.I personally wish VATSIM, IVAO, etc would just standardize a bit, pick a cycle, preferably one that matches as closely as possible a stock FS install, and stick with it. So much more could get done by people individually writing procedures, etc, if they didn't have to worry about updating/checking them every 4 weeks.Not to mention, it seems that when an AIRAC is released, by the time all corrections, etc are made, it's time to release the next...and on it goes. Regards,Brian Doney
April 21, 200719 yr >I still haven't found a set of VFR sectionals for North America, anyone have a good source.Have you tried http://www.myairplane.com/Pretty sure that's what everyone else uses for VFR Clarke Kruger - CYEG
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