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Hi,I'm considering to buy a 22" TFT with a resolution of 1680*1050.Since I fly solely in 2D this imposes a problem with a lot (if not all) of panels (stretching etc).How do you cope with this? Flying VC is not an option, I just don't like that.Those of you flying in 1680 resolution, have you edited all your panel bitmaps including panel.cfg's,and added about 400px extra in size adding some more gauges from the center/co-pilots cockpit space?Egbert

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Hi,I'm considering to buy a 22" TFT with a resolution of 1680*1050.Since I fly solely in 2D this imposes a problem with a lot (if not all) of panels (stretching etc).How do you cope with this? Flying VC is not an option, I just don't like that.Those of you flying in 1680 resolution, have you edited all your panel bitmaps including panel.cfg's,and added about 400px extra in size adding some more gauges from the center/co-pilots cockpit space?Egbert
Hi Egbert,I do not have a wide screen monitor but if I did, I'd do exactly what you say. I would edit those bitmaps and take advantage of that new panel real estate. I like to get everything that I need on one panel. I dislike pop-ups. R-

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Hi Egbert,I do not have a wide screen monitor but if I did, I'd do exactly what you say. I would edit those bitmaps and take advantage of that new panel real estate. I like to get everything that I need on one panel. I dislike pop-ups. R-
I checked a few panels, but some have the panel background contained in the gauge file like the MD2006 and FT737.As far as I know, there no way to extend those panels or is there?Is there no one actually using these panels in 1680*1050?

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Hi,I'm considering to buy a 22" TFT with a resolution of 1680*1050.Since I fly solely in 2D this imposes a problem with a lot (if not all) of panels (stretching etc).How do you cope with this? Flying VC is not an option, I just don't like that.Those of you flying in 1680 resolution, have you edited all your panel bitmaps including panel.cfg's,and added about 400px extra in size adding some more gauges from the center/co-pilots cockpit space?Egbert
Hi Egbert,I have a 20" wide-screen and I use 1680x1050 resolution settings and everything looks perfect. If you do not like what you see you can always reset the resolution to 1280 etc.Barry

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I have a LG 22" and use 1680x1050 resolution with no problems. I have used it on both FS9 and FSX aircraft. Looks great!

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Love my 22 inch wide, 2D panels get strecthed a bit but you get used to it....

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Hi,I'm considering to buy a 22" TFT with a resolution of 1680*1050.Since I fly solely in 2D this imposes a problem with a lot (if not all) of panels (stretching etc).How do you cope with this? Flying VC is not an option, I just don't like that.Those of you flying in 1680 resolution, have you edited all your panel bitmaps including panel.cfg's,and added about 400px extra in size adding some more gauges from the center/co-pilots cockpit space?Egbert
---------If i'm reading your query correctly- here's how I would set up a wide screen mon. Just drag the 2D panel to the left so gauges/instruments are correctly proportioned- then fill in the blank area with popups as in this screenie. Very handy to have the lower EICAS & switch panel avail all the time! The CDU could also be placed there and overlayed on the EICAS!(This pic was an experiment using a 4:3 monitor - black areas are unused portions of my triple mon setup. I think the wide mon quite enhances the panel appearance!)Alex Reid

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Hi all,Thanks for your replies.I guess the stretching I was afraid of is not that bad after all.Alternatively I can extend the panel bitmaps if necessary (for panels with dominantly round analogue gauges perhaps)

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Another 22" 1680x1050 user here - no issues at all. Some devs (like Eaglesoft) DO release panels for these types of WS monitors. Those that don't you can either stretch them as in 'january's' excellent PMDG747 example screeny, or else just live with it - they don't look too bad a bit stretched!

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22" ACER wide screen here. 1680 * 1050. In fact I have two of them side by each. Everything looks perfect.Every panel looks perfect. MADDOG, RFP and all the regular ones.JimCYWG

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Egbert, I'm also partial to 2D panels for airliners, and I don't even notice the slight stretching of the panels on my 22" monitor any longer. Like you, I was concerned about the issue before I bought my first widescreen panel, but now it's completely transparent to me. Round gauges do look slightly ovoid, but the effect is really no different than looking at them from a slight angle - no big deal. I fly the Maddog 2006, DA Fokker, RFP 742, PMDG and Tinmouse 737's in 2D mode, and don't have a noticeable problem with any of them.

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Hi all,This morning I took the plunch (? English) and now I'm the happy owner of a 22" 1680x1050 widescreen monitor.I bought the Samsung Syncmaster T220. In the shop the screen looked the best.Of course the first thing I did was starting FS and indeed the stretching is not an issue.Obviously it does stretch a bit, but after a minute you are used to it.So thank you all for letting me fork out 230 euri's today as if live isn't expensive enough already. Much appreciated... :( Egbert

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We have all been a victim, or should I say our bank accounts, of this affliction called flight simulator :( Now, that monitor will really rock in the VC :(

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Another strategy is to pull the edges of the panel in a bit with the mouse, same for the scenery background.That leaves you with black stripes on both sides.Frankly, many panels look OK when stretched... even better,the VC does not care and simply offers up a bigger vista (no pun intended)..I love my LG 22" screen at 1680x1050 resolution !!

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Hi,I have been a solid 2D panel guy in the past, but what I found really works for me on my 22" WS LCD is:1. Go to VC view.2. Change the zoom to 0.75 - this gives the same view out the window as a zoom of 1.0 on a 4:3 monitor.3. Move back to include more gauges in the forward view (I use the keyboard for this to get the right view, then change the eyepoint value in the aircraft.cfg file to set it in stone).Now I have a screen that usually includes as many gauges as the 2D panel, with perfectly round gauges and a nice wide view.Hope this helps,

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I checked a few panels, but some have the panel background contained in the gauge file like the MD2006 and FT737.As far as I know, there no way to extend those panels or is there?Is there no one actually using these panels in 1680*1050?
I fly the MD2006 on a 22" widescreen at 1680x1050 and I haven't noticed any stretching of the panel. Maybe it is stretched but I just haven't noticed it because I've always done all my simming at this same resolution? Here's a screenshot.427c5a57.jpg

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Nealoc187,definitely streched! :( I must say I am very particular about that. I have a 22" widescreen, too, and so far not found a solution that really satifies me. Including more gauges/sub-panels etc. on the right hand side may work with some panels, with others it doesn

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Alternatively, revise the panel for use (by you only) with the appropriate software. I use FS Panel Studio and Photoshop Elements. Note this will only work with a panel .bmp separate from the .gau file.This is the PSS T7 modified to display at 1680X1050. Not perfect, but as close as I can get.Now that PSS is on the way back, perhaps they will provide wide screen versions of their great panels.Jim Harnes

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Hi,Note that different resolutions should result in different zoom values.For example, my 22" uses 1920 x 1080 resolution (the sharpness is incredible!). 1080/1920 = 0.56525. A normal monitor is 4:3, so 3/4 is 0.75. 0.56525/0.75 = 0.75333. So a zoom of 0.75 will give me the same zoom factor as a zoom of 1.0 on a 4:3 monitor.But 1680 x 1050 is 1050/1680 = 0.625. And 0.625/0.75 = 0.8333. So people using this resolution should use a zoom of 0.83. You can set this in the panel.cfg file for the 2D panel. You can set this in the View menu, I believe, for the VC? Then save a flight.Hope this helps,

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Thanks for mentioning that! Yes, zoom should be altered in the panels.cfg under the [Views]-section. If none is there, insert it. (I put mine on 0.85 which works fine for 1680x1050).[VIEWS]VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.850Apart from your own panel alterations (I now started to modify the bitmaps (via Photoshop) - you can also add a whole new panel and position it on the right hand side and scale down the width of the main panel and sub-panels respectively, all this done in the panel.cfg) you will have to alter the side and rear views if in 2D mode and such views are provided as bitmaps. All of this is quite a bit of work but worth it really. Might post some examples later.

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