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Hi, there.... can anyone help me....!!!!FS2004 freezes when i enter the departure and destination info FROM/TO (for Example: EDDL/EDDF), and or ALTN on the F-PLN INIT Page.AIRAC is 0813, all files are on the right position, all airports are listed. FSUIPC newest version... PMDG 737 installed....Wilco installedWhen I enter a CO ROUTE there is no problem, all works fine.I

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For me the same problem...can not understand what is the matter, already and an airplane reinstalled.. and AIRAC..did not help((

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Guys,Try to create flightplan by using add-on planner such as FSNav or FSBuild, then export it into PMDG Format, make sure that this FP was saved in PMDG routes folder and then via FMC COROUTE field simply type your FP without dashes, i.e. EDDLEDDF, not EDDL/EDDF.Hope it helpsDmitriy

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Dmitriy: Are you still having problems entering FROM/TO fields or did something fix it? I can't reproduce problem, and wonder what is causing it.

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I've installed this fine bird yesterday and haven't tried it with a FSPassengers flight yet, but was wondering if I could plan a flight via FSNAV and use the PMDG 737 export module. Is this correct? Doesn't the export module specifically use the format, KMEMKMSP001" as a coroute? I'm not sure FSNAV exports the flight plan to the MD-11 FMC if the format is something like, "KMEMKMSP", without some type of export module. Does the FMC get it directly from FS9 if the flight plan is exported to FS9?

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I've installed this fine bird yesterday and haven't tried it with a FSPassengers flight yet, but was wondering if I could plan a flight via FSNAV and use the PMDG 737 export module. Is this correct? Doesn't the export module specifically use the format, KMEMKMSP001" as a coroute? I'm not sure FSNAV exports the flight plan to the MD-11 FMC if the format is something like, "KMEMKMSP", without some type of export module. Does the FMC get it directly from FS9 if the flight plan is exported to FS9?
PMDG FSNAV export module that was designed many years ago for 737 works perfectly for 737, 747 and MD11. Not problems at all.

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Dmitriy: Are you still having problems entering FROM/TO fields or did something fix it? I can't reproduce problem, and wonder what is causing it.
And a problem still remained and I was not able to understand reason.

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What do you and Voronoy have in common that might be different from many others that do not have problem?Is FS9 installed in the default location? The navdata should be in FMCWP/NAVDATA folder under FS9. The sidstars should be in PMDG/SIDSTARS.I don't understand your problem. If the files are in the expected location, and you can import a file from FLIGHTPLANS folder then everything should work. This confuses me.See what you guys might have in common.

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What do you and Voronoy have in common that might be different from many others that do not have problem?Is FS9 installed in the default location? The navdata should be in FMCWP/NAVDATA folder under FS9. The sidstars should be in PMDG/SIDSTARS.I don't understand your problem. If the files are in the expected location, and you can import a file from FLIGHTPLANS folder then everything should work. This confuses me.See what you guys might have in common.
A simulator is set in D/Program Files/FS2004. Navdata and Sid/Star in the place indicated by you.

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Thanks Voronoy, lets see if others with same problem are also using D: instead of C:Just to be sure then, the navdata files are D:\Program Files\FS2004\FMCWP\NAVDATAIf so, the fix should be easy. Waiting to hear from Dmitriy.

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And possibly problem from for it, but nevertheless 747 without problems worked. Also without problems worked MD11 for FSX(FSX also set on a disk D)

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PMDG FSNAV export module that was designed many years ago for 737 works perfectly for 737, 747 and MD11. Not problems at all.
Yes, indeed...I tried it out this evening and it does work perfectly...gracias!

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A simulator is set in D/Program Files/FS2004. Navdata and Sid/Star in the place indicated by you.
Hello, I have the same problem. I have FS2004 installed in C:\Program Files\FS2004. Jan

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A D: Drive installation shouldn't bother the sim.Still haven't found what you guys with the TO/DEST field problem have in common, and I'm not a techie type.Verify you have Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributal installed, I have both x64 and x86 in my Vista64. Not sure what should be there for 32 OS but something should be there (tip: Uninstall/Change program will list all the installed components).

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A D: Drive installation shouldn't bother the sim.Still haven't found what you guys with the TO/DEST field problem have in common, and I'm not a techie type.Verify you have Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributal installed, I have both x64 and x86 in my Vista64. Not sure what should be there for 32 OS but something should be there (tip: Uninstall/Change program will list all the installed components).
I have Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributal x86 installed. I have also Navigraph AIRAC 0806 for PMDG installed and I have Czech version of Windows XP. Maybe there is problem with AIRAC or Czech version of Windows ???

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I have Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributal x86 installed. I have also Navigraph AIRAC 0806 for PMDG installed and I have Czech version of Windows XP. Maybe there is problem with AIRAC or Czech version of Windows ???
In the "regional settings" is the decimal separator set to "." or ","?

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I'm also experiencing this problem. My computer hangs for about 90 seconds while it searches for a route when I enter the DEP/ARR airports. I've had to resort to using the CO Route field. The same happens for the ALTN airport.I've looked into all the suggestions above, and nothing fixes it. Is there any hope?C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\FMCWP\NavDataPaul

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I'm pretty sure they would fix it if we knew what the problem was... 3 or 4 have the problem but most do not. I keep looking for what you guys have in common and it might help if you compared setup and systems. So, yeah there is hope.

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XP Home1.86GHz Centrino1.25GB RAM100GB HDDFS9.1Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.21022I also have teh Visual C++2005 redistributable. Could that cause a problem?Paul

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In the "regional settings" is the decimal separator set to "." or ","?
By default it is set to "," in the Czech Windows, but I have set decimal separator to "." ( default settings didn't work with Active Sky Advanced )

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Has anyone solved this problem yet????I have the FSX version and am suffering from the same issue. I had no problems for months and then all of a sudden would freeze up when entering the city pairs....also freezes up when I use CoRoute.Eric

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I think I may have found the cause of the problem in this thread. For the guys who have the problem, how many routes do you have in these folders?- The directory that FS9 saves default FS format flight plans (.pln extension) which is "My Documents/Flight Simulator Files"- The {FS9}/PMDG/FLIGHTPLANS directory for PMDG format flight plans (.rte and .rt2 extensions).I have something like 1100 routes in total. Deleting all those routes essentially eliminated the problem. I use FSBuild, and when I create a new route, it exports to all my addons (PMDG, LDS, FSNAV, FS9 etc...). I set it up this way so that once I do a route in one plane, I can just hop into any other plane, and I KNOW the route will be available in the FMC. As you can see, after a while you end up with quite a few files that the FMC has to search through. That's what was hanging my computer for a so long.Oddly enough, I do not have this problem with any of the other 2 addons I mainly use (LDS and the 744). I'm thinking that the lookup code that PMDG uses was changed slightly, and so the delay comes in.As a request, would PMDG consider modifying the current logic so that the FMS only searches for plans when the COMPANY ROUTE field is used (like on the 744). That would allow me to keep my fplans and the convenient FSB setup.Please let us know if this fixes the problem on other computers.Paul

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I think I may have found the cause of the problem in this thread. For the guys who have the problem, how many routes do you have in these folders?- The directory that FS9 saves default FS format flight plans (.pln extension) which is "My Documents/Flight Simulator Files"- The {FS9}/PMDG/FLIGHTPLANS directory for PMDG format flight plans (.rte and .rt2 extensions).I have something like 1100 routes in total. Deleting all those routes essentially eliminated the problem. I use FSBuild, and when I create a new route, it exports to all my addons (PMDG, LDS, FSNAV, FS9 etc...). I set it up this way so that once I do a route in one plane, I can just hop into any other plane, and I KNOW the route will be available in the FMC. As you can see, after a while you end up with quite a few files that the FMC has to search through. That's what was hanging my computer for a so long.Oddly enough, I do not have this problem with any of the other 2 addons I mainly use (LDS and the 744). I'm thinking that the lookup code that PMDG uses was changed slightly, and so the delay comes in.As a request, would PMDG consider modifying the current logic so that the FMS only searches for plans when the COMPANY ROUTE field is used (like on the 744). That would allow me to keep my fplans and the convenient FSB setup.Please let us know if this fixes the problem on other computers.Paul
Paul, The PMDG MD-11 lookup logic is different because the real MD-11 FMS is different. The functionality it provides to search your flight plan database for any pair of origin/destination airpots you enter and to present a summary page for each identified plan is unique and does not exist in either the 747 or the 757/767. This requires to open each flight plan file, check the origin/destination airports from within the file, then close it and go on with the next file. Sounds a lot but it is faster that you would expect. A small delay, depending on how fast your the PC is, is normal and won't be a problem. If you've got a really old/slow PC it might take more. With my P4 3.0 GHz old PC it takes less than 2-3 sec to search all the PMDG flight plans that were distributed with the 747 (not at home to tell how many they are, but they are a lot). If it is an issue to you, you can just use the COMPANY ROUTE field. This will get directly the desired flight plan with no delay at all. However, I think the problem here is not the delay caused by searching through a lot of flight plans. If it hangs/freezes the problem (as I explained in the other thread) could be that a "bad" flight plan file is causing this. I am awaiting for a user of the other thread to send me ome suspect files to investigate this.

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