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hardware realities for FSX

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I thought I would share my finding.I use 2 test setups.1. Heathrow parked at gate 340, 747 PMDG2. Dubai International gate xxx 767 Level-dTraffix X is setup at 69 % for general and (the other slider- cannot remember)1. VC gives 9.9 to 13 fps, moving in 2D cockpit view shows mico stutters 2. VC gives 20 -33fps, moving in 2D view is smoothOrginally, I had XP and vista 64 on the same disk on different partitons.I added a velcitirapor disk, installed vista 64 in my normal samsung disk in a partition again (so its all new) and formatted and loaded FSX on the raptor disk, no real change.Then I stopped windows restore as I had done before and it seems to improve it at least to slightly above what I add before. Next I moved my pagefile to the raptor disk and saw vista loads so much more quicker and there does seem to be a noticable difference in the performance of the 2ns test scenaro, not much change for the first one.Overall, the cost of the raptor has not produced noticable great performance imporvements, just a little.

Gigabyte EP45-DS4 (F9)

E8500 running at 4.1GHz

4G Dominator 1066 running at 1032MHz

898MB XFX 260GTX

Vista 64-bit on VolictyRaptor 250GB

KIS operating

1440 X 900

You can't expect higher frame rates by using a faster hard disk. You get shorter loading times and better recharging of textures. This may reduce stutters and blurries.As your processor is already very fast, the only way to achieve better frame rates is to reduce the settings in a smart manner. :(

Best regards from RelaxX

How's it going there? I want to help you out, I see a couple things that you should not be doing. First is moving your page file off the C:\ drive...don't do it. Don't partition anything on your FSX drive either.here's a tuning thread that has everything you need to know about how to set up your OS for FSX: http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/Ya...?num=1208959973For the OS setup, follow the steps EXACTLY as written, up to and including the use of O&O to defrag. and the FSX tuning itself:http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=29041You'll get the best performance you can possible get with your HW using these instructions.-jk

OS tuning is fine. However this won't improve the frame rate significantly with your 4.1 GHz CPU.It's also difficult to get higher frame rates by tuning the FSX when you have a 4.1 GHz CPU.As your processor is already very fast, the only way to achieve better frame rates is to reduce the settings in a smart manner. :( If you would find considerable improvements with OS and / or FSX tuning I would highly appreciate to learn how to do that. :(

Best regards from RelaxX

How's it going there? I want to help you out, I see a couple things that you should not be doing. First is moving your page file off the C:\ drive...don't do it. Don't partition anything on your FSX drive either.-jk
I disagree with the Pagefile advice. I have never left my Pagefile on the system drive since Windows 95. I have never suffered any problems or performance degradation by placing the Pagefile in its own small partition with a fixed (maximum) size. I usually keep it on the same disk spindle as the partition I use for backups which of course doesn't get used except when I am backing something up. I can see no valid reason for leaving the pagefile on the systems partition which is a highly volatile partition that fragments very quickly. Leaving the Pagefile on the system partition can cause some performance degradation from head contention. I also have three other partitions on the same spindle as my FSX partition but they are not used during flightsim, so there can be no head contention issues. It all about Spindle management and not just Partition management.

John

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As your processor is already very fast, the only way to achieve better frame rates is to reduce the settings in a smart manner. :(
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well, there seems to be some different views on this. Orginally after getting my raptor, I loaded vista on it and loaded FSX in its default x86 folder with user control turned off and full read-write for FSX folder and under roaming FSX folder containing fsx.CFG. I have found the my present setup is better, infact this is my best setup, I have turned down aircraft setting to medium high and scenry to dense and now get 14fps as in 1 and 40 fps as in 2.Default caribenan landing fps is betwen 80- -130fps, truck drag race between 50 and 70 fps.

Gigabyte EP45-DS4 (F9)

E8500 running at 4.1GHz

4G Dominator 1066 running at 1032MHz

898MB XFX 260GTX

Vista 64-bit on VolictyRaptor 250GB

KIS operating

1440 X 900

I disagree with the Pagefile advice. I have never left my Pagefile on the system drive since Windows 95. I have never suffered any problems or performance degradation by placing the Pagefile in its own small partition with a fixed (maximum) size. I usually keep it on the same disk spindle as the partition I use for backups which of course doesn't get used except when I am backing something up. I can see no valid reason for leaving the pagefile on the systems partition which is a highly volatile partition that fragments very quickly. Leaving the Pagefile on the system partition can cause some performance degradation from head contention. I also have three other partitions on the same spindle as my FSX partition but they are not used during flightsim, so there can be no head contention issues. It all about Spindle management and not just Partition management.
What I referenced is the best advice you can get...anywhere. Take it or leave it. :( -jk

What makes your advice better? :(

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What makes your advice better? :(
It's not MY advice. :( Read the links. :( Did I say it was my advice? B) The best way to optimize XP or Vista for FSX and TUNE correctly is contained in the links I provided. People come here to ask for advice on how to tune their sim or why things don't go right. There's your answers. The works been done and it's all right there in those threads. That and a little common sense.I'm just passing the word. B) -jk
First is moving your page file off the C:\ drive...don't do it. Don't partition anything on your FSX drive either.-jk
This is not a reference, this is direct advice, so give us the benefit of your reasoning. The only reference I read in NickN's diatribe was this and I quote "The page file ALWAYS goes on the boot drive with WindowsXP. Never move it." I would point out that the OP is using Vista 64. However, the pagefile is an easy file to move around so the OP can try his pagefile both on the systems drive and elsewhere to gauge porformance effects. However, I wouldn't recommend putting the pagefile on the FSX spindle. I do agree with Nick that fixing the pagefile size does ameliorate the effect of a pagefile causing fragementation effects on the System partition. However, this still leaves the issue that when a backup of the Systems partition is taken then the pagefile may also be backed up which is just a waste of space as the pagefile is remade every time a machine is booted.

John

Rig: Gigabyte B550 AORUS Master Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT CPU, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Graphics,  Samsung Odyssey  wide view display (5120 x 1440 pixels) with VSYNC on.

This is not a reference, this is direct advice, so give us the benefit of your reasoning. The only reference I read in NickN's diatribe was this and I quote "The page file ALWAYS goes on the boot drive with WindowsXP. Never move it."
Do what ever you want.Here's the benefit of my reasoning: There's no one better than Nick to give advice on FSX or pretty much anything computer HW related these days. If he says don't partition and don't put the page file anywhere but the C:\ than that's good enough.Most of the rookies who disrespect what he writes and dismiss it as "diatribe" end up coming around sooner or later.Read Nick's posts and follow them. That's my advice!-jk

just my 2 cents..I have experimented a lot with pagefile size and location. My final result...I find it gives best results when left to system manged and on the same partition and hard drive as the OS.

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just my 2 cents..I have experimented a lot with pagefile size and location. My final result...I find it gives best results when left to system manged and on the same partition and hard drive as the OS.
This has been my experience also. I always had the pagefile on a separate drive from both the OS and FSX, however in Vista 64 this did in fact degrade overall performance, though I don't know why.Noel

Noel

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