July 15, 200916 yr Has anybody faced anything like I did ? Either my newly reinstalled FS9 is gone nuts or is trying to drive me crazy! At the start of any flight (situation, default one included) the FS9 by itself fills up ALL aicraft fuel tanks with 100% despite my default flight fuel configuration. It does so even though I change the amount of fuel in my aircraft tanks. I don't know what to do on this, ran out of ideas. It is funny on the one hand and tragic on the other to spend so much time to reinstall everything if necessary, having just reinstalled it less than a month ago.Really need help.Sotiris. Sotiris Stavrakis
July 15, 200916 yr Sotiris,You will find that there will be tasks such as this the rest of your simming 'life' and there is no 'work around' for full fuel on start. It is not a detrimental 'issue' per se. Just an annoyance. You will have plenty of that. FS9 is not perfect. You deal with it. You do not go crazy. You become a 'tempered' pilot with nerves of steel and 'accept what you can not change...and then you will become a man, my Son' (heard that one before, somwhere?).To change fuel (and load) go to 'Aircraft\Fuel and Load', click fuel tab on bottom and double click on percentage digits (to highlight) then key in 65% (the keys are RIGHT next to each other-how convieneint. But 88% or 77% will also ease the 'pain' of keying in numbers-ha) for all your tanks. You might choose 99% for Center 1 tank-optional. Then as long as you do not re-load the Sim (as opposed to changing aircraft) you will retain that amount(s) of fuel. Simming is technical. Not a video game. You are in charge and responsible for everything that 'happens' and if you don't like it you change it. Simple as that. Oh, if you start too close to a fuel station you will automatically be 'filled up' to 100%, if your brake or parking brake is on everytime. Start elsewhere?There is SO many little details associated with simming that it takes loads of reading, trial and error even, to 'master' the sim. It will come with time. Meanwhile-don't stress. Go read what is there in lessons, go to forums and read topics. We really do nead a manual, but none was provided after FS2002. Learn by doing is only way, it seems. Cheers.Chuck BNapamule
July 15, 200916 yr Author Hi Chuck B,Thank you for your parental suggestions about simming. I just want to let you know that it is the first time I face something like that in my 8-year and more than 5000 hours simming career (6 years with FS9). Never had problems with fuel setup, nor heard others having had. This appeared for the first time when I started a situation with Level-D 767-300. While in overhead panel cockpit preparation, I noticed that fuel panel values changed as if "by a ghost" and turned to show 100% all. I stopped the flight, restarted FS9 and checked again all its settings and parameters. The only change I had made before the problem appeared was to check "show fuel as payload", but it doesn't seem to be the reason in my opinion. I changed the default flight and I realized that the default 737 had the similar fault. After 2-3 tries I managed to set it. And on the next day I decided to fly that full of obstacles flight. And again, during the cockpit preparation the same annoying thing reappeared. OK, I 'd like to agree with you it is an FS9 bug, but I tell you once more that it had never happened before. I reinstalled 767-300, saved the customised flight, imported it, but nothing changed. Checked with other addon a/c and no such problem appeared. Rather confusing, ain't it ?I never said that FS is a video game, on the contrary I always try to convince anyone saying so. And during that 8-year simming time I have solved and overcome numerous issues mostly by myself, especially in the "gloomy" FS ATC, AI traffic and FS weather fields, yet this time ran out of ideas. I ' ll try what you suggest about not reloading FS.Thanks anyway.Sotiris,Aegean Airlines Technical Dept staff,age 53. Sotiris Stavrakis
July 15, 200916 yr Hi Chuck B,Thank you for your parental suggestions about simming. I just want to let you know that it is the first time I face something like that in my 8-year and more than 5000 hours simming career (6 years with FS9). Never had problems with fuel setup, nor heard others having had. This appeared for the first time when I started a situation with Level-D 767-300. While in overhead panel cockpit preparation, I noticed that fuel panel values changed as if "by a ghost" and turned to show 100% all. I stopped the flight, restarted FS9 and checked again all its settings and parameters. The only change I had made before the problem appeared was to check "show fuel as payload", but it doesn't seem to be the reason in my opinion. I changed the default flight and I realized that the default 737 had the similar fault. After 2-3 tries I managed to set it. And on the next day I decided to fly that full of obstacles flight. And again, during the cockpit preparation the same annoying thing reappeared. OK, I 'd like to agree with you it is an FS9 bug, but I tell you once more that it had never happened before. I reinstalled 767-300, saved the customised flight, imported it, but nothing changed. Checked with other addon a/c and no such problem appeared. Rather confusing, ain't it ?I never said that FS is a video game, on the contrary I always try to convince anyone saying so. And during that 8-year simming time I have solved and overcome numerous issues mostly by myself, especially in the "gloomy" FS ATC, AI traffic and FS weather fields, yet this time ran out of ideas. I ' ll try what you suggest about not reloading FS.Thanks anyway.Sotiris,Aegean Airlines Technical Dept staff,age 53.Sotiris, make sure that you don't have "unlimited fuel" checked in the realism settings. Just a thought as that is a default setting after an install.Iain Smith
July 15, 200916 yr Create a flight, adjust the fuel levels as you want them, and save it as the default flight.Henceforth, any aircraft should load with that amount of fuel, providing a) you don't start next to a filling pump, and :( the aircraft you are loading has the same fuel tanks configured - any not in the default flight's aircraft configuration will still load at 100%.John My co-pilot's name is Sid and he's a star! http://www.adventure-unlimited.org
July 16, 200916 yr I'd also suggest to put your aircraft's starting location rather far away from an airport's gas pump. Try saving a flight in, say, the header of a runway in a tiny airport (the very first one in the ICAO list comes to my mind), adjust your fuel levels, save the flight, and see what happens next time you choose it.
July 16, 200916 yr Create a flight, adjust the fuel levels as you want them, and save it as the default flight.Henceforth, any aircraft should load with that amount of fuel, providing a) you don't start next to a filling pump, and :( the aircraft you are loading has the same fuel tanks configured - any not in the default flight's aircraft configuration will still load at 100%.JohnIn case you are not aware, the flights you save are stored in My Documents (Win XP) in a folder called "Flight Simulator Files".If you save a flight labeled "My default flight", you will find a file - My default flight.flt. This file can be edited by right clicking and "open with" Notepad.I copied this section from a random flight of mine.[Fuel.0]TankSelector=AllTankSelector1=AllCenter=100LeftMain=23.041476900086014RightMain=23.041476900086014LeftAux=0RightAux=0LeftTip=100RightTip=100Center 2=100Center 3=100External 1=100External 2=100 This particular plane does not have any of the tanks listed as 100%, so if this was my default flight and I loaded a plane that had tip tanks they would be full.I could edit this to a different value, say 50, and any plane that has tip tanks would load with them half full.So with a little editing you can set these fuel values to what you want and that is what will load regardless of the plane.Just remember, this has to be done to the default flight what ever that is, be it the stock default C172 at KSEA or another flight you have designated as the default flight.Hope this helps,Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
July 16, 200916 yr Author OK now, many thanks to all of you. It seems that my plane was marginally within range of the refuelling station (don't know the exact distance from it to avoid that 100% forced refuelling). It could happen to anyone....Regards,Sotiris. Sotiris Stavrakis
July 16, 200916 yr It seems that my plane was marginally within range of the refuelling station (don't know the exact distance from it to avoid that 100% forced refuelling)That's what I thought. Should have suggested it earlier. In this case if you're using FSUIPC, go to the fsuipc.ini and in the first section ( [GENERAL] ) change:StopAutoFuel=No into StopAutoFuel=YesBest regards
July 16, 200916 yr If you are comfortable editing your FS9.cfg you can add the lineShowTriggers=1under the [sCENERY] section and you will see a green box that defines the size of the fuel trigger (and thermals).This will give you an idea of their actual size.Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
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