Nice plane. but if you have PMDG 737 LEVELD 767 after these addons CS 757 its a toy like if you compare default fsx planes to addons. But still you can enjoy but its a toy

That's interesting you say that . . . I have the PMDG 737 and I kind of fly it to take a break -- I think it's the CS757 (or PSS 757) is much more complex -- certainly more difficult to get started procedurewise. Not dissing anyone at all -- I love to fly them all -- that's just my opinion.

I was talking about loading the flightplans from the saved FS menu. The FMC will not recognize some of the waypoints if you try to manually enter them but will down load all of the way points from the FS menu flight plan within the Sim. I am starting to use the FS9 flightplans more since it is quicker and easier just to choose them within several payware add-on FMC menu screens. They seem to recognize all waypoints from the FS9 flightplans.Carl Perry

Carl, will importing the flight plan work correctly if you export the plan from FSBuild to the MSFS9 planner, and then import it into the CS757 MCP from there? If not, I'm not even going to install this 2.2 update. The need to manually enter the flight plan was the only thing that kept pushing me to fly the PSS more often.

Nice plane. but if you have PMDG 737 LEVELD 767 after these addons CS 757 its a toy like if you compare default fsx planes to addons. But still you can enjoy but its a toy

Maybe you're using the old "non-pro" model? Had basic funcionality. Version 2.2 Pro is not exactly "a toy" compared to PMDG's 737. But compared to Level-D and PMDG, yes, it's obvious Level-D and PMDG have a higher systems fidelity. Compare prices though... ($10 vs. $40)

Ok I bought it last night and flew it for awhile. First the problems - So far the only significant bug left based on people's reports in their forum is the INOP HSI CDI needle under VOR mode. What it means is if you tune in a VOR and switch to VOR page on the MFD, no matter what radial you dial to track, the CDI needle is ALWAYS centered. I also had about 3 CTDs, one while clicking the FMS and another when exiting FS9.Now the good things, which are many. The model is stunning from the inside out. The sounds are surprisingly good. The ground handling felt superb. Handling in the air feels good. One quick autoland at KPAE worked flawlessly. VC gauge refresh rate is good, FPS is really good. I have yet to use the FMS extensively. So far, other than that stuck CDI needle bug that bothers me, the plane is great IMO.It clearly surpasses the LVD in more than one department. I don't expect its system simulations to be as extensive or flawless compared to the LVD but don't you guys think it's come pretty close? so far no showstoppers and it certainly is a very in-depth and well done addon in its own right.I fail to see how it's just a "toy".

I also had about 3 CTDs, one while clicking the FMS and another when exiting FS9.

I've read where others have had this problem, although personally I've never had it happen (touch wood!). I'm running 3 monitors too, so it's not like I'm not stressing my system out either. Regardless, that shouldn't happen -- I hope you get it sorted out.If it makes you feel any better, I've had many CTDs with the Level D myself, and in 2D panel mode! It happens mainly if I forget my left-forward looking monitor is the active window and I press the OHD button to open up the Overhead panel, the button will arbitrarily change and LOCK the view point (why it does THAT I've never been able to figure out). At that point all I can do is close out that window, open a new cockpit view window (which pops up on the main, No. 1 monitor!) and TRY to drag it over to the second monitor quickly enough to not dog the system. At least half the time that will blow my flight completely up with a CTD -- and I forget a LOT! :( So no matter who you buy it seems there's always a problem somewhere . . .

Hey guys,My biggest sticking point with this bird was always the fuel burn logic. Can anyone confirm it will now burn from the center tanks first? Do the crossfeed switches do anything now or still just look pretty? I hate landing with empty wing tanks and warnings galore because CS couldn't program basic fuel burn logic correctly. Can anyone verify that on a long haul the 757 will indeed burn from the center tank first, exhausting all fuel before switching to wing tanks and burning them out or do you still empty the wings with the center tank full? I know the bug list said corrected Fuel burn but I am betting they just changed the value in the .cfg to make the fuel burn at a more accurate rate like we have been doing since it was released... After all, 3k pounds of fuel to the UK from Newark was never very accurate LOL....If they make me eat crow and apologize I will be more than happy to do so but for right now I don't have my hopes up they re-programmed the fuel burn gauge logic but I would welcome being proved wrong...PaulPS, before anyone comments on how stupid I am for letting such a little thing bother me it is not a little thing to me. So let's just get that out of the way up front :) Part of the fun of simming for me is the pre-flight and fuel predictions. There is something rewarding about loading up the right amount of fuel, loading up wind predictions and landing with an accurately predicted amount of fuel onboard. Just one more challenge that enhances simming for me. PSS (No pun intended) This is also a point I hate with the PSS 777. Nothing like having to load up 225k lbs of fuel for a flight that requires 185k lbs of fuel because you can't put in accurate predictions. I mean I love landing with 60klbs of fuel in the tanks and I feel bad dumping it, Sh*t is expensive LOL!!!Cheers,-Paul

I remember taking off with 10% fuel in the center tanks and 50% in the wing tanks. By the time I landed the fuel warning messages were on for both center tanks. I guess that means it did burn off what was in the center tanks. I will confirm this later.

I remember taking off with 10% fuel in the center tanks and 50% in the wing tanks. By the time I landed the fuel warning messages were on for both center tanks. I guess that means it did burn off what was in the center tanks. I will confirm this later.

Thanks Jason, I really appreciate it.That does sound optimistic and I hope it is the case because this is a visually beautiful A/C and I get better performance with CS than with the PSS 757 so it would be nice to load her back up and drag her out of early retirement in the desert ;) -PaulNo matter what you have to give CS "some" credit. They did listen and return to this project when all of us thought it was dead. On the flip side, looking at the bug list, the fact they considered leaving it as it stood is insulting when they can come up with a "fix" list as long as they did... So while it never should have been left like this in the first place at least they came back...

Ah, Paul -- I was wondering when you'd weigh in with that! I'm going to definately take a look at that in the next couple of days, and I will post back here with what I see (assuming no one else has by then). BTW: when I got the email from Captain Sim announcing the service pack for the FS9 version, I immediately: 1) Picked my jaw up off the ground because they actually did (more or less) what they said they would do a couple of months ago, and, then2) Started scouring the boards trying to see what you had to say about it. :( Best regards --

Ah, Paul -- I was wondering when you'd weigh in with that! I'm going to definately take a look at that in the next couple of days, and I will post back here with what I see (assuming no one else has by then). BTW: when I got the email from Captain Sim announcing the service pack for the FS9 version, I immediately: 1) Picked my jaw up off the ground because they actually did (more or less) what they said they would do a couple of months ago, and, then2) Started scouring the boards trying to see what you had to say about it. :( Best regards --

Hey Chuck! Hope all is well!LOL. Yep, I was definitely an outspoken critic of the CS75 in it's prior "iteration." (I chose that word very carefully) To be honest though, the size of the bug list they addressed in some part validates what those who have complained about were saying all along. If CS thought the bird was as good as some have previously said it was, they wouldn't have even been able to come up with that list ;). Hopefully they really have addressed the issues and to be fair I tried to beat PSS up a little bit too so I will happily pick on everyone equally, not just CS LOL. I am an equal opportunity FS complainer...NOWBy the same token I am all for giving credit where credit is due and would have done so sooner if not for putting 1300 miles on the new scooter in 3 weeks. ;) So despite the sour taste in my mouth left by the original builds I DO wholeheartedly appreciate CS listening and acting and think they deserve credit for doing so... Kudos...No one can take that away from them provided they really come through with the fixes.So... should we have been in this position to begin with; probably not, but at least they are trying to make it right and that says a lot IMHO.NOW NOW...Could this also be a lot of fluff by CS to appease more of us in an effort to sell more 767's. Absolutely but only my pessimist personality went there, my optimistic and realistic personalities beat pessimist up for even saying something like that but with a minimum of 3 personalities at any given time sometimes things just come out :( Cheers!-Paul

Carl, will importing the flight plan work correctly if you export the plan from FSBuild to the MSFS9 planner, and then import it into the CS757 MCP from there? If not, I'm not even going to install this 2.2 update. The need to manually enter the flight plan was the only thing that kept pushing me to fly the PSS more often.

Chuck, I just figured out how to get the imported FS Build flightplan to show the waypoint names in the CS757 CDU. Build your flightplan in FS Build and export it to FS9. When you start FS9 and have your aircraft where you want it, open the flightplan menu and highlight the plan you created in FS Build. Push the save button. It will tell you that you already have a plan by that name. Overwrite it. When you load the plan from the CS757 CDU it will be correct with waypoint names.

I remember taking off with 10% fuel in the center tanks and 50% in the wing tanks. By the time I landed the fuel warning messages were on for both center tanks. I guess that means it did burn off what was in the center tanks. I will confirm this later.

Yes they fixed the fuel burn. I was surprised to load the tanks up as in real life and run out of fuel in the center tanks right on cue before I landed. They have fixed alot on this plane which finnaly pushes it into the next class. Not as good as PMDG or Maddog 80 but the new sound and looks make it a contender now.Carl Perry

Chuck,I just figured out how to get the imported FS Build flightplan to show the waypoint names in the CS757 CDU. Build your flightplan in FS Build and export it to FS9. When you start FS9 and have your aircraft where you want it, open the flightplan menu and highlight the plan you created in FS Build. Push the save button. It will tell you that you already have a plan by that name. Overwrite it. When you load the plan from the CS757 CDU it will be correct with waypoint names.

Thanks, Carl! I just tried to go from FSBuild to MSFS Flight Planner to CS757 and no joy -- I'll try your way as soon as I land.

How do you think the newly revised CS757 compares to the PSS/Just Flight 757?

Thanks, Carl! I just tried to go from FSBuild to MSFS Flight Planner to CS757 and no joy -- I'll try your way as soon as I land.

Carl: It worked like a charm. Thank you! I never would have figured that out . . .

How do you think the newly revised CS757 compares to the PSS/Just Flight 757?

For me, the PSS wins by a nose if only because it delivers better frame rates -- seems to be easier on the system, but still has as many systems features.Paul Solk: My fuel seems to be burning from the center tank first.Just thought you'd want to know . . .

NOW NOW...Could this also be a lot of fluff by CS to appease more of us in an effort to sell more 767's. Absolutely but only my pessimist personality went there, my optimistic and realistic personalities beat pessimist up for even saying something like that but with a minimum of 3 personalities at any given time sometimes things just come out :( Cheers!-Paul

Pessimistic or not, Paul, I AM a realist, which means that I do believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Nothing ever gets fixed (anywhere!) unless we speak up. IOW, I agree with everything you wrote -- as usual.Best regards!