With an ESP license Lockheed Martin would get the same access to source code as any FSX developer...that is to say

With an ESP license Lockheed Martin would get the same access to source code as any FSX developer...that is to say

Note quite "none." They licensed the source code, not simply the compiled platform. They will be able to fix, add to, and otherwise fold, spindle and mutilate to their heart's content... :( That's what makes this somewhat more interesting, albeit nothing that will in any way affect us at all... ;(

A question I would have-since it appears that Lockheed, and some of the bigger motion sim manufacturers I saw at Oshkosh are picking esp with its even questionable license/commitment from MS-why is xplane not being chosen?

Note quite "none." They licensed the source code, not simply the compiled platform. They will be able to fix, add to, and otherwise fold, spindle and mutilate to their heart's content... cool.gifThat's what makes this somewhat more interesting, albeit nothing that will in any way affect us at all... ;(

Indeed. I suggest that this could confirm Microsoft's abandonment of ESP's development. What Microsoft appears to be saying to Lockheed Martin is "you want further developments then do them yourself - here's the source code!"It would be interesting to know if this is an exclusive deal or not.

A question I would have-since it appears that Lockheed, and some of the bigger motion sim manufacturers I saw at Oshkosh are picking esp with its even questionable license/commitment from MS-why is xplane not being chosen?

Presumably because Lockheed Martin decided ESP was better than X-plane.

I always thought ESP had tremendous potential and glad to see someone picking it up to develop it further....Unfortunatly Lockheed Martin is developing it for internal training purposes so what they do with it will never be seen by this community.

I always thought ESP had tremendous potential and glad to see someone picking it up to develop it further....Unfortunatly Lockheed Martin is developing it for internal training purposes so what they do with it will never be seen by this community.

I guess my happiness is from talking to some of the developers that were using esp at Oshkosh this summer-at that point the licensing and continuation was somewhat in doubt. I would think a major player like this will be helpful.

Indeed. I suggest that this could confirm Microsoft's abandonment of ESP's development. What Microsoft appears to be saying to Lockheed Martin is "you want further developments then do them yourself - here's the source code!"It would be interesting to know if this is an exclusive deal or not.

I seem to remember prognosticating shortly after the announced closure of ACES and the abrupt abandonment of ESP development that certain companies who'd already invested heavily in Serious Games development based on the ESP platform would eventually find some way to preserve their investment... Obviously, L-M has managed come up with a solution... :( X-Plane couldn't even begin to compete with ESP with regards to the purposes to which L-M seeks to exploit. ESP is a "world simulator platform" that may be used as the basis for many training applications, something for which X-Plane is uniquely unsuited.