I was wondering since many people here use Ultimate Terrain, do they find it particularly useful for tubeliner flying? I would assume at high flight levels that where exactly rivers / roads are would not be as important?I already have REX and GEP and am interested in UT Europe.

UT is an improvement over the default stuff, but I think FS Altitude scenery might be better high up, which is why I'm considering getting that for Europe. But FS Altitude is FSX, so not an option for FS2004 of course.Al

I was wondering since many people here use Ultimate Terrain, do they find it particularly useful for tubeliner flying? I would assume at high flight levels that where exactly rivers / roads are would not be as important?I already have REX and GEP and am interested in UT Europe.

I'm also flying only the wide bodies and have UT Europe installed.Even at FL300+ it is a very nice addition on top of the default scenery. You won't regred it.

I'd say it is still worth getting as even at altitude you can see the improvement it brings. Also, high altitude tube flying as you'll know, involves a fair bit of lower altitude flying on the ascent and descent and UT adds immeasurably to the experience.

I've resisted getting UT so far because of it's alleged reputation of being a memory hog (CTD's, anyone?) So far I've been pretty lucky, only got a few CTD's due to a no memory condition, but I always found the culprit. With UT installed, I am afraid that it would gobble up what's left of free memory and there would be problems flying a, let's say, PMDG B744 into Aerosoft's Heathrow. As it is, memory consumption gets as high as 1.5Gb without any ill effects.Is my "fear of UT" justified or am I seeing ghosts where there aren't any? :(Regards,Jure

I fly airliners with the combo of UTE, GE, REX, HDE and AS.The fact is installing UTE will not be without side effects (would anything in life be?).For testing purposes I had a period of flying without and with UTE, so here are my brief conclusions:- FPS will drop, but not significantly. Not a big sacrifice, worth it- there will be more ground blurries, but they can be reduced by cfg tweaks and refreshing scenery (assign a key for it)- if you enjoy a lot of autogen on departures and arrivals (I do), you will have to deactivate UTE night lighting when you fly in the daytime- OOMs may happen, especially together with PMDG heavies, but since I applied the 3GB switch, I have enjoyed an OOMless environment- I've never experienced a single CTD though, with or without UTEOf course make sure you have all the UTE patches installed. And defrag your HD.So, all in all, it is worth installing. Even though we fly by IFR rules, it is a pleasure to enjoy realistic road, water, coastline and landclass systems under our wings.

I've resisted getting UT so far because of it's alleged reputation of being a memory hog (CTD's, anyone?) So far I've been pretty lucky, only got a few CTD's due to a no memory condition, but I always found the culprit. With UT installed, I am afraid that it would gobble up what's left of free memory and there would be problems flying a, let's say, PMDG B744 into Aerosoft's Heathrow. As it is, memory consumption gets as high as 1.5Gb without any ill effects.Is my "fear of UT" justified or am I seeing ghosts where there aren't any? :(Regards,Jure

UT Europe when initially released had a few memory leaks, but they all have been solved.(or at least: I did never experience one since)Although I have 4GB RAM installed, I don't use the 3GB patch. Having all major European sceneries and a fair share of aircraft (PMDG, LevelD, MD2008, Wilco, etc), so far I have never ran out of memory in FS.Nevertheless your milleage may vary of course.

Rafal & Egbert,thank you very much for your comments. I think I will go and have a closer look at UT (Europe for starters).

Even though we fly by IFR rules, it is a pleasure to enjoy realistic road, water, coastline and landclass systems under our wings.

Amen to that, Rafal! :(Regards,Jure

You are probably correct. I've flown Flight Sims for 12 years and never had an "out of memory" CTD until after I installed UT. I LOVE what UT does for my scenery so I live with it. I have that save program where it saves aflight every few minutes and there is also a "save" in RC4. When I CTD I can be flying again in about 2 minutes time and that includes resetting my views on my 3: 26" monitors. I'm trying differant things to try and work around this, like "pause" and "minerterize" for awhile to see if it makes any differant. I view the window, I think its call "processes" and it has a lot of memory numbers but I can never see them go anywhere near zero before a CTD. Is there anyway to monitor this "memory" that seems to run out? Any work around this problem or any way to fix it once and for all? Thanks jerrycwo4

Jerry, You should apply the 3GB switch.This tweak has been discussed around many times.Just follow one of the threads about it, for example this one:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...6&hl=switch

Ultimate Terrain USA, Canada and Europe "broke" the rest of the world's scenery for me. I simply can't fly anywhere not covered by one of the UT products. It is just that important. For a commercial pilot you won't get much from cruise, but still it will make a difference on takeoff and landing for airports near water.I've also never had a CTD in FS9 and I've been flying since the day the game was released. UT does not cause CTDs, bad scenery files and afcads do.

rock on ... thanks for the quick replieslooks like UT is a must buy, just hope i won't get OOM errors :(