The best DC-9 there is.

Another recommendation for the SimCheck A300B4-200More info at http://simchecksoftware.com/The CIVA INS can be hand programmed or you just make a FS-X flightplan and load that into the INS. This add-on also has 2d panels for those that like them (the CS727 is only 3D)

Thanks all for the suggestions, very much appreciated.I think it's time to move on and get me one of those, cause honestly the more I fly the CS727 the more it deceives me. It's an ok plane, but there's some things that I just can't understand how could they have been overlooked upon release. Issues with the flight model, sounds, autopilot, etc..Do you guys know if the CIVA INS can be integrated in the SkySim DC-9? It would be the perfect replacement for the 727 with the Sperry AP

I recommend the SimCheck A300 too, really nice plane, well done and the INS is working just fine.If coming from the CIVA INS you'll miss some functions, that's for sure. I would describe it as an easier approach on the INS navigation style but definitely not a bad one. E. g. it doesn't drift and is always aligned.Best option would be to be able to choose if you want to go for the CIVA or the SimCheck INS version, but that's not gonna happen as they've stated this in their forums.The CS727: Nice one too and I absolutely agree about the rudimentary AP on this plane. CIVA INS would be a great deal and thank you for the information about the current work on this solution.Current workaround on the 727 is a mod made by one of the CS forum users. He fixes some stuff ("roll-over-digits", "don't sink", etc.) and implements a small switch for going on the FS GPS. Ok, not the final solution, that's for sure, but now you can load plans, look for approaches and so on ... maybe some kind of FMC like 727 (the retro fitted ones had FMCs as far as I know).

I recommend the SimCheck A300 too, really nice plane, well done and the INS is working just fine.If coming from the CIVA INS you'll miss some functions, that's for sure. I would describe it as an easier approach on the INS navigation style but definitely not a bad one. E. g. it doesn't drift and is always aligned.Best option would be to be able to choose if you want to go for the CIVA or the SimCheck INS version, but that's not gonna happen as they've stated this in their forums.The CS727: Nice one too and I absolutely agree about the rudimentary AP on this plane. CIVA INS would be a great deal and thank you for the information about the current work on this solution.Current workaround on the 727 is a mod made by one of the CS forum users. He fixes some stuff ("roll-over-digits", "don't sink", etc.) and implements a small switch for going on the FS GPS. Ok, not the final solution, that's for sure, but now you can load plans, look for approaches and so on ... maybe some kind of FMC like 727 (the retro fitted ones had FMCs as far as I know).

True, but how does the SimCheck model compare to the CLS model? As far as I know, JustFlight/CLS models are "F-Lite", which means that they are high in detailing but they don't usually give complex and rudimentary systems, unlike the Wilco or PMDG models. But the real question is, do the CLS models include INS?

I recommend the SimCheck A300 too, really nice plane, well done and the INS is working just fine.If coming from the CIVA INS you'll miss some functions, that's for sure. I would describe it as an easier approach on the INS navigation style but definitely not a bad one. E. g. it doesn't drift and is always aligned.Best option would be to be able to choose if you want to go for the CIVA or the SimCheck INS version, but that's not gonna happen as they've stated this in their forums.The CS727: Nice one too and I absolutely agree about the rudimentary AP on this plane. CIVA INS would be a great deal and thank you for the information about the current work on this solution.Current workaround on the 727 is a mod made by one of the CS forum users. He fixes some stuff ("roll-over-digits", "don't sink", etc.) and implements a small switch for going on the FS GPS. Ok, not the final solution, that's for sure, but now you can load plans, look for approaches and so on ... maybe some kind of FMC like 727 (the retro fitted ones had FMCs as far as I know).

True, but how does the SimCheck model compare to the CLS model? As far as I know, JustFlight/CLS models are "F-Lite", which means that they are high in detailing but they don't usually give complex and rudimentary systems, unlike the Wilco or PMDG models. But the real question is, do the CLS models include INS?

True, but how does the SimCheck model compare to the CLS model? As far as I know, JustFlight/CLS models are "F-Lite", which means that they are high in detailing but they don't usually give complex and rudimentary systems, unlike the Wilco or PMDG models. But the real question is, do the CLS models include INS?

You can find out more about the CLS A300 on their site: https://www.commerciallevel.com/webshop.php...d=7&groep=1Judging on the review here: http://www.flightsim.com/main/review/clsair.htm the CLS A300 doesn't have an INS, FMC. The FS GPS gets mentioned so I presume you can fly a route using thatThe SimCheck A300 has all analog gauges (CLS uses partly glass gauges). I get the impression that the CLS a300 doesn't model the different hydraulics, air, fuel and electric systems like the SimCheck one does. As they say its a F-Lite product. Easy to use but if you want a bit more system modeling you have to look elswere

You can find out more about the CLS A300 on their site: https://www.commerciallevel.com/webshop.php...d=7&groep=1Judging on the review here: http://www.flightsim.com/main/review/clsair.htm the CLS A300 doesn't have an INS, FMC. The FS GPS gets mentioned so I presume you can fly a route using thatThe SimCheck A300 has all analog gauges (CLS uses partly glass gauges). I get the impression that the CLS a300 doesn't model the different hydraulics, air, fuel and electric systems like the SimCheck one does. As they say its a F-Lite product. Easy to use but if you want a bit more system modeling you have to look elswere

The CLS A300 was for me a big deception. Very basic panels and the sounds are horrible. Better A300 would be the freeware tom's. SimCheck is of another world... make me regret the PSWA310 in FS9RV

where can I find this mod please?

Current workaround on the 727 is a mod made by one of the CS forum users. He fixes some stuff ("roll-over-digits", "don't sink", etc.) and implements a small switch for going on the FS GPS. Ok, not the final solution, that's for sure, but now you can load plans, look for approaches and so on ... maybe some kind of FMC like 727 (the retro fitted ones had FMCs as far as I know).

The CLS A300 was for me a big deception. Very basic panels and the sounds are horrible. Better A300 would be the freeware tom's. SimCheck is of another world... make me regret the PSWA310 in FS9RV

No it wasn't. As I mentioned above, the CLS A300 is an "F-Lite" product, so don't expect high fidelity systems, FMCs or even TCAS on the A300. CLS aircraft are pretty much reserved for beginner to intermediate simmers. And I don't think the Thomas Ruth model is as realistic as the SimCheck model. The INS was not there either. Worse yet, it relies on the Boeing 737-800 soundset by the ACES team of Microsoft for sounds. My version of his model includes a soundset by Devyn Silverstein, which makes it far more realistic. Oh yeah, and anyways, the Tom Ruth model was also an F-Lite, it didn't quite have the realism the SimCheck or even the CLS model had.

And I don't think the Thomas Ruth model is as realistic as the SimCheck model. The INS was not there either. Worse yet, it relies on the Boeing 737-800 soundset by the ACES team of Microsoft for sounds. Of course not. The point was that Thomas A300+better set of sounds just feel betters than CLS one and also looks better when screenshoting. B738 default sounds always remind me a vacuum cleaner, in fact they may be the same set than FS9 B734..RV

where can I find this mod please?

Here you gohttp://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1261409734

Thanks

Here you gohttp://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1261409734

Concorde-X is amazing, but its not a normal jetliner thats very useful for a whole host of routes, its mainly for the cross atlantic route between the US east coast and Europe. It does have an IRS based navigation system tho, and it has a very low degree of automation as well

Well said. However I must disagree on one important point!You can fly the Concorde-X regional quite well. With er, a little imagination. Yeah think John Travolta with Bill Gate's pocket book. Yeah.

I just wish the simcheck Airbus had an updated FMC option

I just wish the simcheck Airbus had an updated FMC option

What about Ernie Alston's ISG avionics? This is a package in wich are different FMS (collins, honeywell) and gauges. Anyone may retrofit any plane. In one install I just noticed FPS drops but I will try soon in a new install. RV