July 20, 201015 yr Hey Andre,I am sure they will get ay issues resolved. Nvidias GTX 460 seems to be their "pride and joy" for the time beig. It sure is making waves in the videocard circles. :( Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
July 20, 201015 yr Mine's in too... HUGE difference from my 4850 radeon card... more fps, smoother and using NickN's Nvidia configs the image quality is in a completely different league. I do have a bit of texture flashing initially, but things settle down quickly. Over mega airport Heathrow in a JS41 it's smooth although framerates drop quite a bit. Finally I can fly and not keep fiddling with settings to try and get an enjoyable experience. No stutters at all, hoorah!!Jimi-5 750 @4.00 Ghz4gb 1600 ddr3GTX 460 1Gb1920x1080 22" MonitorI've also ordered a GTX460 to replace my 4850. The problem isn't really that ATI cards in general have poor image quality, it's just that they aren't suited for FSX.- Adaptive FSAA does not work on autogen trees. Anti-aliasing only affects things like the outline of the terrain and aircraft.- There's no option to clamp on negative LOD bias (basically when each pixel on your monitor represents multiple pixels of the texture, which happens when you view e.g. trees from a distance)Those two combined results in the horrible, flickering autogen trees and some other issues. I find that using "Narrow tent" improves this by slightly blurring everything. But that's hardly ideal. Also the Catalyst drivers are designed for maximum performance in GPU-limited scenarios at the expense of worse performance when you're CPU limited. Since FSX is very CPU-heavy, you get a performance handicap which is more noticeable the slower your CPU is. With most other games, like first person shooters, the GPU/video card tends to be the limiting factor, rather than the CPU, so this trade-off really makes sense for many games.The 4850 has been a *great* card for everything except FSX and X-Plane. Really, those are software-issues rather than a fault with the hardware. It seems flight sims take the back seat to 3d shooters as far as driver development at ATI goes. -
July 22, 201015 yr Received the GTX460 1GB today, to replace my 512MB Radeon HD 4850.First impressions:-It's slightly faster. In a very demanding scene, where the 4850 was pushing 9 FPS, the GTX460 manages 11.2 FPS - this holds true for less demanding scenes as well, the GTX460 is about 20% faster than the 4850 in FSX. There's somewhat less hesitation when panning or flying extremely fast. This difference is certainly not like night and day, but it can turn some approaches into detailed airports from unflyable to bearable.- The new drivers for this card break nHancer. Using just the Nvidia control panel, I was unable to activate any type of FSAA on trees, regardless of settings. Clamping negative LOD bias has no or very little impact. So you're left with almost exactly the same image quality as Radeon cards. Anything else is just due to the placebo effect or incorrect settings on the ATI card.-The good news is that NickN at SimForums has figured out a way to enable the necessary tweaks without nHancer, activating FSAA for trees and other objects. Unfortunately, it's a bit awkward to implement, and affects all games rather than just FSX. The author of nHancer is also working on an update, but it's uncertain when it will be released. -
July 26, 201015 yr Commercial Member Anyone try OCing the card yet? From what I've read you can get some serious gains (800+ MHz on the core clock) with it, putting it at basically GTX470 level. I should have mine in the next two weeks I think. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
July 26, 201015 yr Anyone try OCing the card yet? From what I've read you can get some serious gains (800+ MHz on the core clock) with it, putting it at basically GTX470 level. I should have mine in the next two weeks I think.Running 800/1600 here fine with low temps in FSX full load 54C lol for a VGA card :( Cheers,Andr André
July 26, 201015 yr Anyone try OCing the card yet? From what I've read you can get some serious gains (800+ MHz on the core clock) with it, putting it at basically GTX470 level. I should have mine in the next two weeks I think.I'm also curious if anyone is using bufferpools=0 with this card vs. their older card. Jeff Hepburn
July 26, 201015 yr ...and I just realised that the 465 is NOT a revision of the 460 but a completely different card with a different chip.In fact it's a slower chip and less optimized power compsumption wise than the 460Lame move from nVidia to label them 465I'm going to RMA it and see if I can get a GTX460 1GB and do all the testing again I'm testing a Gigabyte GTX465 1MB right now... First impression... no difference
July 26, 201015 yr ...and I just realised that the 465 is NOT a revision of the 460 but a completely different card with a different chip.In fact it's a slower chip and less optimized power compsumption wise than the 460Lame move from nVidia to label them 465I'm going to RMA it and see if I can get a GTX460 1GB and do all the testing againI was wondering why you bought a GTX 465 and not the GTX 460. Out of the box, with no oc'ing, I think the GTX 465 might be slightly faster than a GTX 460 in some instances. Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
July 28, 201015 yr Got a new card today, Gainward GTX 460 1GB "goes like hell". Had a ATI gigabyte 4870 1 gb. I would say that it was a big improvment. Had a couple of really nice flights in the carribean with fsx today. I would never buy another ati card. It is smooth, cool and quiet. My computer have crashed randomly until i put in this tiny little card that is a monster compare to my old one. Got more fps, it is smooth when i look around. I am happy..:-)
July 29, 201015 yr Exchanged my Gainward 9600GT (1GB) with the Gainward GTX460 (1GB). Running at stock clocks, it ROCKS my 4 monitor setup (3840x1024 for front view or VC, 1920x1080 for 2D panel).Improvement in FPS and - more important to me - major improvement in smoothness.The demanding resolution of my setup off course still requires compromises in certain situations.And a powerful CPU is mandatory. I'll have to run my i7950 >3,5 GHz to feed the GTX460 properly.Conclusion: I'm very happy with the GTX460 (1GB).Only drawback: My TH2GO won't work if it's plugged in the second DVI of the Video Card. It stays black, although the Matrox display is recognized and configured as 3840x1024 in W7-64bit.Any solution know for that?Joerg Joerg AlvermannWin10 Pro 64Bit - i9-9900KS - GTX3060 12GB - 5760x1200
July 30, 201015 yr You are gonna keep the GTX 260 for PhysX, right, Andre? :(Well Actually I'm going to sell it lol :( Hey Andre,I am sure they will get ay issues resolved. Nvidias GTX 460 seems to be their "pride and joy" for the time beig. It sure is making waves in the videocard circles. :(Lol I moved one :( André
July 31, 201015 yr Commercial Member The pundits are falling over themselves in praise for Nvidia's new 460 GTX. It is much cooler and less power hungry that even it's competitors. Better still it's priced at $200.00 USD, and in SLI configuration matches or exceeds the GTX 480's performance at stock speeds.The release is a surprise smash hit among all the reviewers.http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/1http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=954http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/12/..._gtx_460_reviewhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias...60-the-200-kingThis is a huge jump forward for Nvidia, and has been a best kept secret! They are overclocking them as high as nearly a third faster than stock, with the encouragement of Nvidia itself, which has announced that these cards are all built to be a overclocker's delight. What else do they have up their sleeves? I wonder.I luv this card and don't even own it yet. I am upgrading from a GTX285 that can't go above 675 core. People are OCking the 460 I ordered to 910 core and it runs cooler and quieter. 2 in sli blow the socks off a 480 for about the same cost.jja Jim Allen[email protected]SkyPilot Software home of FSXAssist / P3DAssist
August 1, 201015 yr Hi,Does anyone know if this card can be used in SLI to achieve Nvidia's "surround vision"? I have three 22" monitors and want them to work together to provide a more realistic cockpit view. I also have a 20" monitor I'd like to use for 2D views of instruments, maps, weather, etc.The choices I have are:1) Buy two GTX 460 cards and SLI them into one large screen (3 monitors) plus one 2d screen2) Buy 1 GTX 460 card and get a matrox triplehead2go and have one large screen (3 monitors) and one 2d screensor3) try to network a couple computers using WidevieW FS and create 1 view per computer (3 computers total)Any thoughts from multi-monitor FSX users out there before I spend some $ on this great hobby.My goal is to produce the most realistic flight sim experience I can at home.ThanksJim V.Vancouver
August 1, 201015 yr Commercial Member Hi,Does anyone know if this card can be used in SLI to achieve Nvidia's "surround vision"? I have three 22" monitors and want them to work together to provide a more realistic cockpit view. I also have a 20" monitor I'd like to use for 2D views of instruments, maps, weather, etc.The choices I have are:1) Buy two GTX 460 cards and SLI them into one large screen (3 monitors) plus one 2d screen2) Buy 1 GTX 460 card and get a matrox triplehead2go and have one large screen (3 monitors) and one 2d screensor3) try to network a couple computers using WidevieW FS and create 1 view per computer (3 computers total)Any thoughts from multi-monitor FSX users out there before I spend some $ on this great hobby.My goal is to produce the most realistic flight sim experience I can at home.ThanksJim V.VancouverCheck out this article.jja Jim Allen[email protected]SkyPilot Software home of FSXAssist / P3DAssist
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