October 5, 201015 yr I just came across the the nice looking Milviz C310 and read in their forums that any G1000 might get integrated in the panel. They even name the Flight1 G1000 there.Post concerning the panelReading this and owning the great Citation Mustang together with the well done G1000 (only addon gauges seem to outperform this solution) I wonder if these gauges can be used in other panels like the C310 ones.I haven't found a tutorial for this but the pure information if it works or not would fit right now. An explanation why "go or "no go" is current would be appreciated.Thanks for your help :)Remark: Might be I'm mixing up the expression "Flight1 G1000" with the Mustang's because there seems to be an aftermarket gauge for FSX too.http://www.flight1tech.com/g1000.asp
October 6, 201015 yr Moderator Remark: Might be I'm mixing up the expression "Flight1 G1000" with the Mustang's because there seems to be an aftermarket gauge for FSX too.http://www.flight1tech.com/g1000.aspThat is the version referred to. Either that one (which is still under development), or the one from Mindstar Aviation: http://www.mindstarprods.com/aviation/ Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 6, 201015 yr Author Thanks for the reply. I've read the announcement but couldn't see any release dates or even prices.Could be it exceeds the price of the aircraft by far if it is aimed at the professionals. Am I right?
October 6, 201015 yr The Avidyne is $99.95 so possibly the G1000 will be a similar price. We will have to wait until F1 Tech releases the product.I would guess that MilViz is the company who can answer your question about the G1000 in the 310. I would like to see it too. Either the F1 Mustang G1000 or the MindStar G1000 will have to be adapted specifically for 310. Currently the F1 Mustang G1000 is for twin turbine engines and the MindStar G1000 is for a Cessna 182 single piston engine.
October 6, 201015 yr Author Quite a price, the mindstar comes at the half of it.But what actually holds me back is the second thing you've mentioned, the need for an adaption towards every model. Lets see how F1 comes up with this new development. The mindstar surely is done well but I'm a bit worried about the slow process on some items when watching their forums.Until now, the Mustang has a good replica of G1000 at no additional cost. Nice feature. If only $50-100 are able to enhance this, I'll stick with it and fly the other ones with the default FSX gauge.
October 6, 201015 yr Commercial Member The Avidyne is $99.95 so possibly the G1000 will be a similar price. We will have to wait until F1 Tech releases the product.I would guess that MilViz is the company who can answer your question about the G1000 in the 310. I would like to see it too. Either the F1 Mustang G1000 or the MindStar G1000 will have to be adapted specifically for 310. Currently the F1 Mustang G1000 is for twin turbine engines and the MindStar G1000 is for a Cessna 182 single piston engine.The Mindstar G1000 recognizes and installs for the Eaglesoft DA42 as well as the Cessna 182.Quite a price, the mindstar comes at the half of it.But what actually holds me back is the second thing you've mentioned, the need for an adaption towards every model. Lets see how F1 comes up with this new development. The mindstar surely is done well but I'm a bit worried about the slow process on some items when watching their forums.Until now, the Mustang has a good replica of G1000 at no additional cost. Nice feature. If only $50-100 are able to enhance this, I'll stick with it and fly the other ones with the default FSX gauge.As I stated... the Mindstar G1000 recognizes and installs for the Eaglesoft DA42. As for updates... to get the latest Mindstar G1000 you need to request their beta version via their forums. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
October 6, 201015 yr Author Yes, I saw the Eaglesoft integration there and actually just bought the DA42 but apart from her and the 182, there is editing to do or you'll have to wait for beta versions to see e. g. engine parameters displayed correctly.It's not as easy as dropping just the gauge into the panel so the variants of planes to use the G1000 is limited somehow.Nice to see some devs coming up with out of the box integration (although you still have to request the correct Mindstar version first for the use it in the DA42).
October 7, 201015 yr Commercial Member The real G1000 is completely unique per aircraft type. Think that's easy to do in FS?? :( Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
October 7, 201015 yr Author No, I don't think this can easily be done, WarpD.For example, I saw one thread (item) in their forums to be there for 2 years now and still being followed but "in progress", so they are expanding the range at low speeds but they do of course.I just choose my investment hopefully wise and if I see a 50 Dollar gauge in only two of my aircraft (exactly one, I don't use a C182), it does not have enough attraction for me.Reading about having to request a beta version to enable e. g. the DA42 variant of the gauge and looking at a "future" support of current navdata are some more drawbacks in my eyes.I appreciate the work of programmers but I usually but the stuff that's available and favorable for me personal needs.By the way, considering gauges, the Eaglesoft DA42 has a very nicely tweaked G1000 build in at no additional cost and together with the data coming from e. g. Aivlasoft EFB it enables me to fly all current procedures as overlay. Perfect and valuable solution here, so you might understand what holds me back from further avionics investments.I see that you have the insights on how to program gauges and therefor react sensible if someone just demands without knowing about the actual work in that product. I respect that. My customer sight might not always compliment yours but hopefully often enough.
October 7, 201015 yr Moderator By the way, considering gauges, the Eaglesoft DA42 has a very nicely tweaked G1000 build in at no additional cost and together with the data coming from e. g. Aivlasoft EFB it enables me to fly all current procedures as overlay. Perfect and valuable solution here, so you might understand what holds me back from further avionics investments.I see that you have the insights on how to program gauges and therefor react sensible if someone just demands without knowing about the actual work in that product. I respect that. My customer sight might not always compliment yours but hopefully often enough.I'm glad you like the G1000 in the DA42. It took me many months of effort to get it to its current status.As it happens, both Ed (WarpD) and I are gauge/systems programmers for Eaglesoft. Ed takes care of the advanced jet avionics and instruments, while I mainly work on the GA stuff. :( Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 7, 201015 yr Author Done some flights now, with EFB feeding it, and it worked just fine. The usage is much more comfortable than on the default one too. As it is fluent (and maybe even faster on the map than the real thing), I have to applaud again. The traffic display also is a big pro.I wrote some findings in your forums which seemed to be small glitches. You might want to look there.
October 7, 201015 yr That is the version referred to. Either that one (which is still under development), or the one from Mindstar Aviation: http://www.mindstarprods.com/aviation/ To follow up on what Bill and Ed are refering to...Both F1 and Mindstar Aviation are leaders in G1000 development for FS using the latest and greatest techniques.No easy task as we've been saying for over a year and a half now.Users tend to glance at a real world or simulated G1000 and assume they are one size fits all. The truth of the matter is that Garmin builds specific versions for specific aircraft integration.This approach compounds the challenges for FS G1000 developers including Eaglesoft as has been mentioned in our DA42 Twin Star. Mindstar Aviation has accomplished a very good DA42 Twin Star Version and we understand they are working on other aircraft specific versions.Haven't spoken to Jim at F1 since Oshkosh but assume they will offer other versions as well. Jim, please correct me if I've misstated anything here.Eaglesoft is now working on a specific Cirrus Perspective G1000 for that project and we assume that Mindstar is working on that version as well. Stasi please correct me if I'm offbase.
October 7, 201015 yr Author Some might say that this is an Eaglesoft thread now as I'm surrounded by you guys But thanks for your feedback and insights, I appreciate that very much.Having two competent companies in the after market G1000 integration field isn't the easiest thing for interested customers here. As I only want to buy one version, hopefully the best and the one having a wide application base, I'll stick to the tweaked default so far (purely default sadly is a uncomfortable way of flying) and look what happens at Flight 1. Seeing which package at which price comes up there will start the comparison again.If all G1000 units in FSX were like the one in the Mustang or in the DA42 I wouldn't bother very much. Such things at no additional costs fit my needs together with e. g. using the DA42 one in conjunction with Aivlasoft's EFB (which of course doesn't come cheap but can be used on all planes, not only with the GPS function).
October 7, 201015 yr Some might say that this is an Eaglesoft thread now as I'm surrounded by you guys But thanks for your feedback and insights, I appreciate that very much.Having two competent companies in the after market G1000 integration field isn't the easiest thing for interested customers here. As I only want to buy one version, hopefully the best and the one having a wide application base, I'll stick to the tweaked default so far (purely default sadly is a uncomfortable way of flying) and look what happens at Flight 1. Seeing which package at which price comes up there will start the comparison again.If all G1000 units in FSX were like the one in the Mustang or in the DA42 I wouldn't bother very much. Such things at no additional costs fit my needs together with e. g. using the DA42 one in conjunction with Aivlasoft's EFB (which of course doesn't come cheap but can be used on all planes, not only with the GPS function).Our input is for the benefit of all who wish to understand a bit more about the challenges faced by all devs regarding providing and implimenting G1000 in FS.We see Eaglesoft as one of the developers alongside Mindstar Aviation, and of course Flight1...:(
October 7, 201015 yr Author Our input is for the benefit of all who wish to understand a bit more about the challenges faced by all devs regarding providing and implimenting G1000 in FS.We see Eaglesoft as one of the developers alongside Mindstar Aviation, and of course Flight1...:(If I wouldn't know that your are bound to the Eaglesoft development I'd say you write speeches for politicians, Ron :( Again, thanks for the insights to all of you guys. I hope you get the strange humor out of some posts of mine. Lets stay tuned to G1000 gauge news around Avsim.
Create an account or sign in to comment