September 20, 200322 yr I deleted 2002 2 days ago. I gave the complete default 2004 plenty of time to see how it handles before really messing with anything. In the last few days I played around with the AI using tTools and am completely happy. I'm using default GA AI and Project AI for Commercial. Ibasicaaly want as much GA as i can get and just a taste of Commercial and with real airplines flying real routes to the airports they service. Have set where I can keep GA always set to 100% traffic and the AI traffic slider in FS controls my Commercial only. Now that I did that I decided there was nothing else left in 2002 for me to keep it taking up 9gig on my harddrive. I have no plans on adding any scenery to 2004 or more a/c to fly. Will probably get the UT update when it comes out and then set my traffic to 50% which will keep my GA at 100% and 50% on the Commercial. Never once did I go back to FS2002 after installing CoF. This new sim is completely amazing and runs on my P4 2gig 512ram with a new 256 gForce 5600 golden prefectly fine.NP
September 20, 200322 yr I removed FS2002 from my system immediately after installing FS2004.I don't miss it at all.All of our new releases will be for FS2004 ONLY.Michael VerlinHistoric Jetliners Group
September 20, 200322 yr i deleted 2002 15 minutes after installing 2004get the same or better performance with 2004 on the same 'puter. no upgrades necessary have not had even ONE of the problems or glitches you mention above in 70+ hrs of flying 2004there has to be 2 very different versions of 2004 being soldyou cant possibly be running the same sim as i am running :)don
September 20, 200322 yr >I haven't, but am on the fence. Same here, Noel. I assume it might be dying soon here. :)
September 20, 200322 yr Still have both on two seperate drives. Sometimes I fly the 767 PIC and other aircraft that do not function in FS9. With 240 gigs of hard drive space, I will probably keep it for a while.
September 20, 200322 yr I will keep fs2002 at least until all my favourite addons are updated. Even then I might keep it. At the moment fs2002 is even my main sim, after all it is very mature and works flawlessly, which is more than can be said about fs2004 at the moment. Also hard drive space is cheap, so I can't really see a reason to remove it.- Oyvind
September 20, 200322 yr I built a new system (Spec's below) and i put FS9 on right from the get-go. Never looked back..................
September 20, 200322 yr I will keep FS2002 running side by side with FS2004 as long as I enjoy it and need it. Reasons for keeping both are many;1. There are add-ons that work fine with both of them (one installation for both), like the new Mega-Scenery (LA-San Diego) and Lago's Terra mesh.2. I have too many goodies in my old FS2002 that wont fit on FS2004.3. It will take more then a year for good new FS2004 add-ons to arrive. The best add-ons for FS2002 came out only 6 months ago.4. Is FS2004, with all respect, a real break through?5. Just imagine, to build all over again my AI traffic. What a nuisense. Same goes for other things, such as my own LAGO FSSE sceneries. They will not fit into FS2004. A complete new version of the payware will come out with no links to the old one. All files are lost once I give up FS2002.Those were just a few reasons. Give me a day and I will come up with another 20. It all does not mean FS2004 will not replace Fs2002 at the end - maybe in one year time.SeevGigabyte Motherboard GA-7VTX-HAMD XP 1700 Processor786 MB DDR MemoryAsus GeForce FX 5200 - 128 MB video cardMaxtor 40 GB 7200 HDDMaxtor 120 GB 7200 HDDHercules Fortissimo III sound card
September 20, 200322 yr Commercial Member Hi, I have dumped fs2002 before the fs2004 release, too much bugs remains unfixed in fs2002 and non environment, a last good bye fs2002 :-lolThere is some user will stick for fs2002 and even not buying fs2004/fs2006 for their personel reason such as lack of time or $ for upgrading system for each release of Msfs.ThanksChris Willis[link:fsw.simflight.com/FSWMenuFsSim.html]Clouds And Addons For MsFs Kind RegardsChris Willis
September 20, 200322 yr Author >All of our new releases will be for FS2004 ONLY.>>Michael Verlin>Historic Jetliners GroupHi Michael :)As long as your planes are FSDSV2 or GMAX they'll work in FS2002 :D .... If the FS2004 FDEs don't work .... I'll use an older one :)http://album.atomic-systems.com/showPic.ph.../AAV_banner.jpghttp://www.aavirtual.com :) Quote from MS Flight Team Lead: "We’ve made some guesses"
September 20, 200322 yr "I must say that, now having read this thread again, I'mamazed at how many people have dumped FS2002 without a secondthought. In time, yes, but ALREADY? There are so manyadd-ons that won't work in FS2004 yet (or ever), so manyprograms like Arrestor Cables that have now become payware butwork beautifully as freeware in FS2002; and the bottom line isthat FS2002 is just so flyable in comparison anyway.Moving from FS2000 to FS2002 was a no-brainer, it was sorevolutionary. But FS2004 has many glitches not present inFS2002. Queer flight models, autogen all over runwaythresholds, water running up mountains in default mesh,missing bits and pieces, not to mention somewhat Disneyesquecolours. A glorious weather engine, yes, but so many peopleappear to have had to effectively disable it to get the sim toactually run as a flight simulator. Particularly with theell-documented autogen bug adding to landing problems.No, glorious new sim, but it's all smoke and mirrors; FS2002is as solid as a rock for me. I'm just surprised when I readthat people have dropped it so casually. Can you really livewithout your 767PIC, Dreamfleet 737 and others for so long?!Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumont"I hear ya Mark, but I don't fly the heavies and all my GA payware has been updated (Cessna 421 is working fine, just waiting for an update), bought active camera as I can't fly without it, and that is about it. Fs2002 had horrible performance for me, bad FPS, with tons of tweaking and in the last few months plenty or DLL errors and I actually like the brightness and color in FS9. As a scenery designer I wanted more objects in the scenery and more realism close to earth and I have that with FS9 default, PLUS better performance. It was tough deciding what to keep out of 4 gigs af aircraft, but that is the beauty of it, a chance now for new updated models out of nessecity.Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VAwww.calvirair.comCougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviationwww.cgrmtnhelos.com Best, Michael KDFW
September 20, 200322 yr i haven't dumped it....i think i won't.it's setup the way i like it,and it is a million times smoother on my system...i've got every slider maxed,except clouds,mesh,and autogen,no ai,and it runs like a dream,no matter what plane i throw in.otoh,i DO find myself flying default fs9 dc3 all the time...but the stuttering annoys me.even with everything at min,it still stutters.i would think that on an AMD 1800,with 256mb ram and a geforce4 ti4200 128mb i should be able to atleast have the textures right? ;-)oh,and i KNOW i should get more RAM,but ... umm...well...you supply the money doode ;-)the tweaking continues...regards
September 21, 200322 yr Kept fs8 fly it exclusively.I leave fs9 on my hd until a fix if not its gone. my 2 cents:-beerchug
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