Anyone have the new GTX 580 installed yet? How is it performing with FSX?Very close to buying one of these cards. Also any opinions on what 2 of them would be like in SLI? I know the reivews in SLI so far are fantastic for GPU heavy games but how would this translate to performance in FSX?Regards,James

I know the reivews in SLI so far are fantastic for GPU heavy games but how would this translate to performance in FSX?

The subject of using SLI in FSX has really been beaten to death on these forums - I suggest you do some basic search.

I already posted in the "Get while thier hot" with my results so far

Hi freebird77, could you elaborate a bit more your impressions, Please?I have ordered a Gigabyte GTX580. It should be here tomorrow or monday (DHL is very efficient). It cost to me 479€.Best.Miquel.

Hi freebird77, could you elaborate a bit more your impressions, Please?I have ordered a Gigabyte GTX580. It should be here tomorrow or monday (DHL is very efficient). It cost to me 479€.Best.Miquel.

Thats what I have.  Dandy card - just got it.  It is really fast.jja

I posted some feedback on the ORBX Forum.Enjoyjja

After reading everything I can find on the 580 GTX I have to think that it is simply a significantly improved 480 GTX, and the latest entry presented in the Nvidia 400 series video card family. Sure, it may warrant a 500 series number to distinguish it for image marketing purposes, but it is essentially in most ways a fixed and enhanced 480 GTX. I get incredible frame rates with my massively overclocked EVGA 480 GTX in an ultra smooth FTX enviroment because this video card is well matched and a fully equal partner to the equipment it works with, namely the SSD's in Raid 0, very fast Ram, an ultra-high stable overclocked CPU and an adequate power suppy. When I can run maxed out FSX settings in the most demanding of circumstances with a setting of 60 FPS that seldom drop below 40, and never below 25, this is as good as it gets. A 580 GTX would do nothing to improve flightsim performance for me or my machine, except add another medal to my chest, and a few hundred dollars on my credit card to clean up at the end of the month.But, and this is a big but, when the new Sandy Bridge CPU's and motherboards come out, I hope to assemble a system that would stretch a new and improved Nvidia card. So, maybe next year sometime, Lord willing, there will be a new 585 GTX or a 680 GTX, or whatever, providing me with the latest flightsim fun and excitement. Meanwhile I am very content to have a setup that has exceeded all my hopes and expectations for my hobby. Like most things in life, you never know how much you enjoy and take for granted what you already have, until you are presented with, and seriously contemplate something different. So, it will be very interesting to see what will constitute a fully integrated 580 GTX system that will push the performance possibilities forward. Anyone with an intense interest in such things are living in exciting times for Intel says the biggest jump in their company history is just about to take place with Sandy Bridge. We have just a few more weeks to wait, and a new race for the stars will begin.Kind regards,

After reading everything I can find on the 580 GTX I have to think that it is a significantly improved and enhanced version of the 480 GTX. Sure, it may warrant a 500 series number to distinguish it for image marketing purposes, but it is essentially in most ways simply a fixed and enhanced 480 GTX. I get incredible frame rates with my massively overclocked EVGA 480 GTX in an ultra smooth FTX enviroment because this video card is well matched and a fully equal partner to the equipment it works with, namely the SSD's in Raid 0, very fast Ram, an ultra-high stable overclocked CPU and an adequate power suppy. When I can run maxed out FSX settings in the most demanding of circumstances with a setting of 60 FPS that seldom drop below 40, and never below 25, this is as good as it gets. A 580 GTX would do nothing to improve flightsim performance for me or my machine, except add another medal to my chest, and a few hundred dollars on my credit card to clean up at the end of the month.But, and this is a big but, when the new Sandy Bridge CPU's and motherboards come out, I hope to assemble a system that would stretch a new and improved Nvidia card. So, maybe next year sometime, Lord willing, there will be a new 585 GTX or a 680 GTX providing me with the latest flightsim fun and excitement. Meanwhile I am very content to have a setup that has exceeded all my hopes and expectations for my hobby. Like most things in life, you never know how much you enjoy and take for granted what you already have, until you are presented with, and seriously contemplate something different. So, it will be very interesting to see what will constitute a fully integrated 580 GTX system that will push the performance possibilities forward. Anyone with an intense interest in such things are living in exciting times for Intel says the biggest jump in their company history is just about to take place with Sandy Bridge.  We have just a few more weeks to wait, and a new race for the stars will begin.Kind regards,

+1 - The 580 is an incremental (but not a logical purchase) upgrade from the 480.jja

After reading everything I can find on the 580 GTX I have to think that it is simply a significantly improved 480 GTX, and the latest entry presented in the Nvidia 400 series video card family. Sure, it may warrant a 500 series number to distinguish it for image marketing purposes, but it is essentially in most ways a fixed and enhanced 480 GTX. I get incredible frame rates with my massively overclocked EVGA 480 GTX in an ultra smooth FTX enviroment because this video card is well matched and a fully equal partner to the equipment it works with, namely the SSD's in Raid 0, very fast Ram, an ultra-high stable overclocked CPU and an adequate power suppy. When I can run maxed out FSX settings in the most demanding of circumstances with a setting of 60 FPS that seldom drop below 40, and never below 25, this is as good as it gets. A 580 GTX would do nothing to improve flightsim performance for me or my machine, except add another medal to my chest, and a few hundred dollars on my credit card to clean up at the end of the month.But, and this is a big but, when the new Sandy Bridge CPU's and motherboards come out, I hope to assemble a system that would stretch a new and improved Nvidia card. So, maybe next year sometime, Lord willing, there will be a new 585 GTX or a 680 GTX, or whatever, providing me with the latest flightsim fun and excitement. Meanwhile I am very content to have a setup that has exceeded all my hopes and expectations for my hobby. Like most things in life, you never know how much you enjoy and take for granted what you already have, until you are presented with, and seriously contemplate something different. So, it will be very interesting to see what will constitute a fully integrated 580 GTX system that will push the performance possibilities forward. Anyone with an intense interest in such things are living in exciting times for Intel says the biggest jump in their company history is just about to take place with Sandy Bridge. We have just a few more weeks to wait, and a new race for the stars will begin.Kind regards,

Stephen,How do you set your FSX display settings when it comes to Autogen, and Mesh? I'd be interested in how that page in FSX is set by you?Stan

This is my first post on AVSIM forum and i would like to start with thanking everyone for the wealth of information that has helped me build the ultimate flight sim system for my father and the information that has helped me tweak the configuration the get the best flying experience. Thank you all, your shared knowledge has been a huge help !! I have recently purchased new hardware for my fathers new flight sim system (specs in sig) and have managed to achieve very smooth flight using an Asus GTX470 with REX 2 and ORBX with the BP=0 and AffinityMask=14 tweaks. Frame rates are good with an average of around 25fps and even under huge load they are very smooth at 18 fps. The only problem is this GTX470 has the blackscreen in 2D Desktop problem which has been tested in two systems and does the same thing in both. Basically every now and then on a cold boot it will blackscreen and will need to be rebooted. I have tried every solution possible but it wont seem to help. 2 days ago i decided to bite the bullet and purchase an EVGA GTX580 and was hoping to achieve 2 things, 1) put an end to my blackscreens and 2) perhaps lift the frame rates a bit in the built up areas. So far no blackscreens which is what i expected, however, i have not seen a single increase in frame rates, in fact the same recorded flight spits out exactly the same low high and average frame rates. I was a little surprised at this. My main concern however is that now with the GTX580 i am experiencing micro-stutters, they aren't huge but as everyone knows they don't need to be to totally destroy the feeling of flight. After a day of trying to eliminate these stutters, i remove the card and put back in the GTX470 and the performance is absolutely smooth and stutter free again.The 580 was a logical choice to upgrade from my 470 with blackscreens as from what i understand it is basically a 480 with some of the issues ironed out and since the 480 is highly recommended for FSX it seemed like the logical direction to go. I might add that the vapor cooling is amazing on this card, after hours of flying it remains very cool indeed, Nvidia have done well on this new system of cooling i think.Has anyone else experienced the same issue with the 580 and micro-stutters? Does anyone have any ideas why my 470 is smooth as silk and the 580 has micro-stutters? I feel like i am so close to all the time money and research paying off with a perfect system but between the two issues i am having with these two cards i am left a little deflated. Keen to hear if anyone else has seen the same thing with their 580. Thanks again. Dave [EDIT] I am using the 262.99 driver but have tried an older one that came with the card also, same issue with both drivers. Also i tried as an experiment down clocking the 580 to my 470 speeds and that didnt change anything either.

This is my first post on AVSIM forum and i would like to start with thanking everyone for the wealth of information that has helped me build the ultimate flight sim system for my father and the information that has helped me tweak the configuration the get the best flying experience. Thank you all, your shared knowledge has been a huge help !! I have recently purchased new hardware for my fathers new flight sim system (specs in sig) and have managed to achieve very smooth flight using an Asus GTX470 with REX 2 and ORBX with the BP=0 and AffinityMask=14 tweaks. Frame rates are good with an average of around 25fps and even under huge load they are very smooth at 18 fps. The only problem is this GTX470 has the blackscreen in 2D Desktop problem which has been tested in two systems and does the same thing in both. Basically every now and then on a cold boot it will blackscreen and will need to be rebooted. I have tried every solution possible but it wont seem to help. 2 days ago i decided to bite the bullet and purchase an EVGA GTX580 and was hoping to achieve 2 things, 1) put an end to my blackscreens and 2) perhaps lift the frame rates a bit in the built up areas. So far no blackscreens which is what i expected, however, i have not seen a single increase in frame rates, in fact the same recorded flight spits out exactly the same low high and average frame rates. I was a little surprised at this. My main concern however is that now with the GTX580 i am experiencing micro-stutters, they aren't huge but as everyone knows they don't need to be to totally destroy the feeling of flight. After a day of trying to eliminate these stutters, i remove the card and put back in the GTX470 and the performance is absolutely smooth and stutter free again.The 580 was a logical choice to upgrade from my 470 with blackscreens as from what i understand it is basically a 480 with some of the issues ironed out and since the 480 is highly recommended for FSX it seemed like the logical direction to go. I might add that the vapor cooling is amazing on this card, after hours of flying it remains very cool indeed, Nvidia have done well on this new system of cooling i think.Has anyone else experienced the same issue with the 580 and micro-stutters? Does anyone have any ideas why my 470 is smooth as silk and the 580 has micro-stutters? I feel like i am so close to all the time money and research paying off with a perfect system but between the two issues i am having with these two cards i am left a little deflated. Keen to hear if anyone else has seen the same thing with their 580. Thanks again. Dave [EDIT] I am using the 262.99 driver but have tried an older one that came with the card also, same issue with both drivers.

Hi Dave,Without having the facts to analyse and come up with the reason for the 580 GTX's surprising weakness for stuttering, I will take my best experienced guess. It will most likely be a driver issue since Nvidia has been able to massage the 400 series drivers for some time but is just now adapting them to the 500 series. It may take a bit of time to resolve the basic 500 series issues. I am sure they are working on it as we speak.Kind regards,

+1 - The 580 is an incremental (but not a logical purchase) upgrade from the 480.jja

+2Having owned and tortured the 480s and returned them I'll just my 2 cents worth:The 580 is a bit more than just a stronger 480, 15-30% more GPU performance surprised everyone, And it really is what the 480 should have been, and now its here.But mainly the 580 is a card that doesn't bother you, it is quiet and you’re happy to have it running in the case if you like quiet. To my taste the 480 was just annoying and for the money didn't offer enough performance over the 285 in FSX to justify the price along with the added noise.If you are in the market for a new high-end card avoid the 480 and get the 580 unless you can get the 480 at a real significant savings and noise isn't a factor. If you do already own a 480 and you should wait for Kepler (Fermis replacement) or if you have some cash to burn I would ditch the 480 for the 580 or you might look into a quieter cooling solution for the 480, your choice

Hi Dave,Without having the facts to analyse and come up with the reason for the 580 GTX's surprising weakness for stuttering, I will take my best experienced guess. It will most likely be a driver issue since Nvidia has been able to message the 400 series drivers for some time but is just now adapting them to the 500 series. It may take a bit of time to resolve the basic 500 series issues. I am sure they are working on it as we speak.Kind regards,

Thanks for your reply Stephen, I hope it is just driver related, i guess my concern is after reading another thread here i haven't seen anyone else comment on micro-stutters upgrading from their 480's.Its heartbreaking that i am seriously considering selling my 580 as I'm concerned that if i am the only one getting this that the longer i wait before selling the less money i will get back.If it wasn't for the GTX470 performing beautifully i would think that it could be my settings but it doesn't explain why i get such smooth flight with the 470.Thanks for your input Stephan, i might wait for the next driver release before doing anything drastic, i would be relieved if anyone else gets the same and has tweaked something to fix it.RegardsDave

This is my first post on AVSIM forum and i would like to start with thanking everyone for the wealth of information that has helped me build the ultimate flight sim system for my father and the information that has helped me tweak the configuration the get the best flying experience. Thank you all, your shared knowledge has been a huge help !! I have recently purchased new hardware for my fathers new flight sim system (specs in sig) and have managed to achieve very smooth flight using an Asus GTX470 with REX 2 and ORBX with the BP=0 and AffinityMask=14 tweaks. Frame rates are good with an average of around 25fps and even under huge load they are very smooth at 18 fps. The only problem is this GTX470 has the blackscreen in 2D Desktop problem which has been tested in two systems and does the same thing in both. Basically every now and then on a cold boot it will blackscreen and will need to be rebooted. I have tried every solution possible but it wont seem to help. 2 days ago i decided to bite the bullet and purchase an EVGA GTX580 and was hoping to achieve 2 things, 1) put an end to my blackscreens and 2) perhaps lift the frame rates a bit in the built up areas. So far no blackscreens which is what i expected, however, i have not seen a single increase in frame rates, in fact the same recorded flight spits out exactly the same low high and average frame rates. I was a little surprised at this. My main concern however is that now with the GTX580 i am experiencing micro-stutters, they aren't huge but as everyone knows they don't need to be to totally destroy the feeling of flight. After a day of trying to eliminate these stutters, i remove the card and put back in the GTX470 and the performance is absolutely smooth and stutter free again.The 580 was a logical choice to upgrade from my 470 with blackscreens as from what i understand it is basically a 480 with some of the issues ironed out and since the 480 is highly recommended for FSX it seemed like the logical direction to go. I might add that the vapor cooling is amazing on this card, after hours of flying it remains very cool indeed, Nvidia have done well on this new system of cooling i think.Has anyone else experienced the same issue with the 580 and micro-stutters? Does anyone have any ideas why my 470 is smooth as silk and the 580 has micro-stutters? I feel like i am so close to all the time money and research paying off with a perfect system but between the two issues i am having with these two cards i am left a little deflated. Keen to hear if anyone else has seen the same thing with their 580. Thanks again. Dave [EDIT] I am using the 262.99 driver but have tried an older one that came with the card also, same issue with both drivers. Also i tried as an experiment down clocking the 580 to my 470 speeds and that didnt change anything either.

Dave,I have the 580 and it is running very smooth and maybe you can check with others in the other 580 thread, and this on basically no tweaks at max settings with all eye candy turned up so I'm thinking something in your system doesn't like the change. 470/480/580 are very close family wise, yes there are changes in the 580 at the transistor level up that make it different but the drivers are working good in FSX on my system (I7-920 @4.2 win7-64) so First did you do a clean install of the drivers or just installed on top, I doubt its in issue but you might try using the clean installl method if you didn and re-install them. Second, did you remove your old FSX.cfg and let it rebuild or at least remove the entry for your old card from the cfg? Third FPS wise there IS an increase but I dont kow what you expect. 15-30% better in various DX9 benches over a 480 , if FSX was as graphic dependant as these benches (it isn't) that would be maybe + 3 to 6 FPS increase over 25 FPS so you cant expect that even over your 470 (which is a real good card all around).Maybe you are seing a cap on your FPS as a result of Vsync in combo with your settings? However I would say the big improvement is in minimum frames and smoothness or turn up the AA and there is a decent increase in FPS apples to apples, but over a 470/480 the be not going to be the same as coming from a 285/460 card. Again, I dont know if your card is ok or not but something on your system doesn't like the change and the stuttering is not usually a symptom of a faster card, though it can be as Stephen said driver related, but I just doubt it (am also using 262.99) Just saying I think something else is at play here, recheck everything, even that all the fans are working on your cooler so we know its not throtting from heat or O/Cing ssues etc. Also how is your PSU? Hope you get it worked out, I much prefer this card over my 480 experience.

Stephen,How do you set your FSX display settings when it comes to Autogen, and Mesh? I'd be interested in how that page in FSX is set by you?Stan

Hi Stan,Congrats on your new machine! I have everything maxed out to the right except for mesh at 5 meters and water back a single notch. I should point out that I use the autogen FSX.cfg file adjustments as specified in this thread at the ORBX forums linked RIGHT HERE. It is worth reading and adjusting your settings accordingly.Kind regards,