Hi,I am looking for a framerate friendly, but fully simulated aircraft that fits into one of these types of a/c; I was thinking like a turbocharged single or even a turboprop single, or a twin, or maybe a light jet, like a Citation SP. I currently own the Carenado Seneca II for FSX and like it, but was looking for something maybe a little faster. Oh, one more thing, I don't like FS9 ports because they seem to be bad on frames, I find most FSX native a/c to be properly optimized. Any suggestions? Thanks guys.I own the ESDG Citation SP for FS9 and really enjoy it, i was wondering if there is not something similar that is a true FSX model.

Turbocharged GA singles:Orbx Lancairhttp://fullterrain.com/product_lancair.htmlEaglesoft Cirrus SR22 G3 http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/CirrusSR22G2_G3T.htmOther highly recommended singles:Realair's SF260http://realairsimulations.com/flash.php?page=sf26007_introCarenado's F33 Bonanzahttp://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/buscador.php3?id_producto=82Single turboprops-wise, not many options (but still quality):Carenado C208http://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/buscador.php3?id_producto=85F1 PC12 (dated but a great plane)http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=fsxpc12My personal favorites:RealAir's Dukehttp://realairsimulations.com/duke09/intro.php?page=duke09_introFlight1 C510 Citation Mustanghttp://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=f1mustangLotus' L39 Albatroshttp://www.lotussim.com/Ant's P2002 Sierra (for low n slow)http://www.antsairplanes.com/sierralsa.htmlOH, p.s. - these are all FSX native ;)

Turbocharged GA singles:Orbx Lancairhttp://fullterrain.com/product_lancair.htmlEaglesoft Cirrus SR22 G3 http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/CirrusSR22G2_G3T.htmOther highly recommended singles:Realair's SF260http://realairsimulations.com/flash.php?page=sf26007_introCarenado's F33 Bonanzahttp://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/buscador.php3?id_producto=82Single turboprops-wise, not many options (but still quality):Carenado C208http://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/buscador.php3?id_producto=85F1 PC12 (dated but a great plane)http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=fsxpc12My personal favorites:RealAir's Dukehttp://realairsimulations.com/duke09/intro.php?page=duke09_introFlight1 C510 Citation Mustanghttp://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=f1mustangLotus' L39 Albatroshttp://www.lotussim.com/Ant's P2002 Sierra (for low n slow)http://www.antsairplanes.com/sierralsa.htmlOH, p.s. - these are all FSX native ;)

Cool Thanks Ryan, I wonder how the Citation might run on my system, it looks sweeeet!

The RealAir Duke is an amazing plane, but the framerate isnt fantastic for a GA plane. Its not terrible either tho

Cool Thanks Ryan, I wonder how the Citation might run on my system, it looks sweeeet!

What system do you have? I have to tweak my installation a bit to increase fps. Normally I comment out the copilot PFD (so it won't display), and don't use the inset maps on the pilot PFD. Also I don't run the MFD with terrain on.On my rig I can fly rural areas without issue. Flying metropolitan areas can be an issue... maybe 10-12 fps whereas the default crj would yield 16-20 fps.

The RealAir Duke is an amazing plane, but the framerate isnt fantastic for a GA plane. Its not terrible either tho

If you're comparing it to Carenado's older birds, you're correct. But mine performs about 30% less than default c172. It's near the same category as Orbx Lancair and Carenado's F33. The Duke really is a must have!

This is a fab little aeroplane, very different, and it's fast too, one of my FSX favourites: http://www.lionheartcreations.com/VikingAl

Speaking of Lionheart, has anyone tried the Victory VLJ? Looks pretty good too, I've never owned a Lionheart a/c, but they all look well done? Do they compare to Carenado or others? Are they in-depth simulations and how are the frame rates? Thanks!!!

Speaking of Lionheart, has anyone tried the Victory VLJ? Looks pretty good too, I've never owned a Lionheart a/c, but they all look well done? Do they compare to Carenado or others? Are they in-depth simulations and how are the frame rates? Thanks!!!

I think they are special - love the Kodiak and as you can see from the review, was impressed by the Victory as well:http://www.avsim.com/pages/0510/Lionheart/EpicVictory.htm

This is a fab little aeroplane, very different, and it's fast too, one of my FSX favourites: http://www.lionheart...ions.com/VikingAl

My favorite too. IRL also.

I think they are special - love the Kodiak and as you can see from the review, was impressed by the Victory as well:http://www.avsim.com...EpicVictory.htm

Bought the victory a while back but just wasn't convinced by flight dynamics... It just felt wrong so removed (framerates where ok though..)

Ryan's list is a great one!Here's some of my favorites I've been flying around a lot!MilViz Cessna C310R (great model, great exterior textures, best FDE around, fast...a little tough on fps):MilViz C310 ROrbx Lancair IV-P (amazing FPS, amazing details and beautiful, flies high and fast):LancairCarenado V35B Bonanza (a classic Bonanza V-Tail, beautiful inside and out, easy on fps):V35B BonanzaFlight 1 BN-2 Islander (slow, amazing short field aircraft...perfect for Orbx/FTX sceneries, looks and flies amazing, easy on FPS):BN-2 IslanderCarenado Piper PA34 Seneca (beautiful inside and out, easy on FPS:Piper SenecaA2A Sim's Piper J3 Cub (amazingly recreated, great FPS, perfect everything....LOW and SLOW is the game here):J3 Cub / get this Accusim pack tooYou may also try the Digital Aviation Cheyenne, even though I haven't used in FSX, it was fantastic in FS9:Piper CheyenneAlso, worth checking if you want a commuter turboprop with amazing systems and realism, yet hard on FPS, check out this:PMDG Js4100IMHO, you CANNOT go wrong with any of Ryan's suggestions, or the ones I listed above. All top shelf quality addons!

Think I'm going to get the Carenado Caravan or the Lionheart Viking, thanks all!