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Trying to hunt down FS9 stutters

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I suppose, I should go back for some fact finding here: do you other FS9 users see a significant difference in the fluidity of panning around (or just generally taxiing around and looking at the ground) as you lower FPS limiting? Obviously, there will be some...but setting my FPS locked at 30 or 40, animations like AES are nice and fluid, however general panning and watching trees/buildings/taxiway signs go is very choppy.Setting my FPS to 100 seems to minimize the severity of the stutters but they are more frequent than setting my FPS at 60. 60 FPS allows the smoothest environment between stutters but offers some pretty noticeable stutters every 2-5 seconds. Setting to unlimited has rather big stutters.Thanks.

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An interesting find I accidentally stumbled upon, with the help of some others over at vZMP on VATSIM:The default Windows 7 desktop theme influences this. I switched from Windows 7 to the Windows Classic theme and rather than stutters, I have smooth panning but the stutters turned into some minor shimmers. I've tweaked my nVidia Inspector settings to try to reduce it with some success.With Windows Classic, below are my settings. While switching to Classic is annoying...if it's what I have to do to eliminate stutters, I will. Now, I suppose my focus has shifted to ironing out the shimmers.Perhaps you graphics card gurus can make more sense of this discovery than I can, or provide some ways to minimizing shimmer.

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Texture Filtering should be higher than Performance.

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Texture Filtering should be higher than Performance.
Unfortunately, none of the settings from High Performance to High Quality have no visible impact. I can't really tell a difference in quality either.

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I have had same problems since I had my hard drive replaced. My frame rate at times get down to 1 frame per second. It makes no difference what my fps slider is set at.I have all the display sliders down to medium-low or lower, traffic at 12-15 %, Weather at low (simple clouds).The add-on programs I run is the Saitek utility and FSScreen (occasionally), Ultimate Terrain USA and the COA55 traffic. I have many add-on aircraft, mostly POSKY, but a few others. The stuttering usually starts 10-15 minutes after I hit Fly Now button.I'm sure the real world weather has something to do with it, especially at a busy airport. Larry

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I've been experimenting still significantly with Inspector, and does not seem to have much of an effect (yes it impacts FPS on the high AA-side of things). My current settings are below. I've turned off AA completely and lowered most sliders to 0 in FS and still experience this stutter-like, "chattering"...where I can be taxiing or panning along and every 5-7 seconds objects near by seem to jump forward then back for about 2 seconds, then forward at their normal rate. Most noticeable if I'm looking at autogen, trees, taxiway signs, etc. Locking my FPS at 60, my monitor refresh rate, seems to be the smoothest but still generates this "chattering". 30, 90, 100, and unlimited seem to do it as well. My FS9.cfg is also below (which I've tried rebuilding then tweaking as well). 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Does anyone have recommendations on what specific settings reduce stutters in the FS9.cfg? Not necessarily worried about blurries at this point. I keep experimenting with: TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120TextureMaxLoad=10TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=4.000000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=4.000000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=4AUTO_LOD=1andLOD_TARGET_FPS=70 Changing one variable at a time, but keep chasing my own tail. Thanks!

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HI You seem to have tried a lot of things. Long time ago I had some serious stutters. I tried to set RENDER_TO_TEXTURE to off, and the problem dissapeared - I don't know why. So why don't give it a try! Money%20Eyes.gif Regards Henrik

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Disabling render_to_texture usually crashes my sim at 77% loading, any idea why? I've never been able to truly see the effects of it in-sim.

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The reason you get a ctd when disabling "render to texture",is because you are using dxt3 cloud textures. Dimi..

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Interesting. Does anyone have any other conclusive info about "render to texture" in terms of stutters? I haven't seen it discussed too much.

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I have read somewhere that enabling "render to texture", should improve fluidity in the sim.Personally,I see no difference in enabling or disabling.The various discussions regarding it seem to be ambiguous at best! Dimi

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OK, then I'll leave it enabled since I can't disable it without a CTD. Can anyone comment on smoothness based on... TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULTTextureMaxLoadTERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUSTERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUSTERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELSAUTO_LODandLOD_TARGET_FPS There seems to be two arguments...eliminating blurries is the key to smoothness. The other is leaving blurries to reduce CPU/GPU load for smoothness. Anyone have firm information on either? Thanks.

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I use: 100 10 4 4 4No blurries,very smooth,but you hardware must be good,ie GPU/CPU.I have not tried the last two parameters. Dimi.

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hello,(from LGAV)smile.pngsame stutters problem withi5 2500k,4gb ddr3,gtx460 1gb,only with 60 fps really smooth(not 59, not 61)but if you "view recorded flight, then the stutters are there all over even with 60fps...sad.pngdont know what to do, seems that nobody has a fix for that....must live with this

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