Pilots I believe are rostered to practise the autolands on a schedule to ensure they work when needed. So I guess just like them we need to try it out every so often. I know in the LVLD 767 I hardly ever use it but do try it out now and then. It always feels like a nailbiting moment to me. Will it work, won`t it, have I set everything correctly, would I be better just landing it myself?

Both types of autoland (fail-operational and fail-passive) are fully simulated. Fail-operational is what it defaults to in the PMDG house livery and it's similar to what the 777, 747-400 etc have. You get full guidance through out the flare, rudder control, and full ROLLOUT mode guidance. Fail-operational is the older version that doesn't have three inertial sources and cannot control the rudder for ROLLOUT - the FD biases out of view during the flare as well. Fail-operational has other equipment dependencies - you must use the Collins MCP and the ISFD for it to be enabled. The Collins MCP has the hidden AP channel for the rudder control, and the ISFD gets used as the third inertial source. If either of them are swapped out you'll get a "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" message in the CDU.

Both types of autoland (fail-operational and fail-passive) are fully simulated. Fail-operational is what it defaults to in the PMDG house livery and it's similar to what the 777, 747-400 etc have. You get full guidance through out the flare, rudder control, and full ROLLOUT mode guidance. Fail-operational is the older version that doesn't have three inertial sources and cannot control the rudder for ROLLOUT - the FD biases out of view during the flare as well. Fail-operational has other equipment dependencies - you must use the Collins MCP and the ISFD for it to be enabled. The Collins MCP has the hidden AP channel for the rudder control, and the ISFD gets used as the third inertial source. If either of them are swapped out you'll get a "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" message in the CDU.

This is the attetion to detail I love, I am sure "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" will turn up in the forum incorrectly as a bug as some point when someone swaps options around.

This is the attetion to detail I love, I am sure "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" will turn up in the forum incorrectly as a bug as some point when someone swaps options around.

That's what I was thinking! That and "damn, what'd I do wrong?"

This is the attetion to detail I love, I am sure "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" will turn up in the forum incorrectly as a bug as some point when someone swaps options around.

If PMDG had a dollar for each time people are going to say "this is a bug" when it actually isn't, they'd all be able to retire to some beautiful island and have cold drinks with pretty umbrellas in them.

If PMDG had a dollar for each time people are going to say "this is a bug" when it actually isn't, they'd all be able to retire to some beautiful island and have cold drinks with pretty umbrellas in them.

I saw someone post a "fix" for a "bug" for another addon aircraft once... He said the autopilot didn't work and to fix it, he gave instructions on aliasing to the default FS9 T7 panel.

Both types of autoland (fail-operational and fail-passive) are fully simulated. Fail-operational is what it defaults to in the PMDG house livery and it's similar to what the 777, 747-400 etc have. You get full guidance through out the flare, rudder control, and full ROLLOUT mode guidance. Fail-operational is the older version that doesn't have three inertial sources and cannot control the rudder for ROLLOUT - the FD biases out of view during the flare as well.

Just so people are aware, fail-passive is the type that doesn't have rollout capability. Time for some sleep, Ryan, you work too hard ;)

I love the common sense, plain talk explanations Tabs gives on the forum, like the difference between Fail Operational and Passive. I have the hard bound PMDG/Boeing manuals, and for most of the terms, even when they explain them in great detail, I still have a quizzical look on my face. That explanation makes perfect sense, and I can't wait to learn from Tab's tutorials and Angle of Attack's training, to supplement what I have studied in the official manuals.

Both types of autoland (fail-operational and fail-passive) are fully simulated. Fail-operational is what it defaults to in the PMDG house livery and it's similar to what the 777, 747-400 etc have. You get full guidance through out the flare, rudder control, and full ROLLOUT mode guidance. Fail-operational is the older version that doesn't have three inertial sources and cannot control the rudder for ROLLOUT - the FD biases out of view during the flare as well. Fail-operational has other equipment dependencies - you must use the Collins MCP and the ISFD for it to be enabled. The Collins MCP has the hidden AP channel for the rudder control, and the ISFD gets used as the third inertial source. If either of them are swapped out you'll get a "FAIL OP AUTOLAND DISABLED" message in the CDU.

Just so people are aware, fail-passive is the type that doesn't have rollout capability. Time for some sleep, Ryan, you work too hard ;)

Thanks for the clarification, David. Ryan's explanations are usually excellent, but his answer to this one had me a bit cross-eyed. (I'll give you a mulligan on this one, Tabs).