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What is the obsession with the Autoland?

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That is not entirely precise. Again you are saying VFR when you mean VMCFor VMC contitions, in airspaces A B C D E, above 10000ft (or FL100 depending on TL), flight visibility has to be 8Km (4,4nm). Notice I have included airspace A, because it is included in the table even when, under VMC, VFR will not be allowed in this airspace.
Yeh but you can still fly SVFR in class A airspace, which is close enough to VFR to count as it, you just need to remain in contact with ATC and get their permission to enter the airspace....Provided of course as you say, VMC conditions prevail.....

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I only use autoland to simulate a pf when i practice being the pm. this is after all a multi pilot ac

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Rico van Dijk

I literally never use autoland. It must have been years since the last time I used it. If I cant see the runway on minimums for non autoland I go around and try again, and if I still cant see anything I divert to an alternate

Johan Pettersen

Yeh but you can still fly SVFR in class A airspace, which is close enough to VFR to count as it, you just need to remain in contact with ATC and get their permission to enter the airspace....Provided of course as you say, VMC conditions prevail.....
Of course. But my point was to differenciate VMC and IMC as meteorologial conditions and IFR, VFR, and SVFR as a set of rules and requirements (and combined with an airspace class, a set of guaranteed services). The explanations that the simulation materials usually offer are too simplified, so it's fair that we give them more info on the precise meaning of these concepts as we get to understand them once we have access to real world training.

Omar Josef
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I have a good reason: Because time and time again flight simmers have asked the BIG question: Would I have a chance in hades of landing this thing in real life. And the answer from most real world pilots: Your best bet would be to attempt an autoland. Trying to hand fly it would be suicide.
I'm not so sure about this 'simmers could never handle a real plane' thing. I did a session in a BA Level-D 747-200 simulator and the FS people were definitely better at getting it on the ground. I stacked it because then I had no experience of FS or real flying. Later on while flying for real, I did three touch and goes in a Warrior on my second lesson, which impressed my instructor, and I'm convinced I was helped a bit by MSFS. Not that I ever told him... But yes, far easier to press the right buttons in the right order and let George land it for you. Ian

What a long read! Thank you all for your posts! Learned a lot :(

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Frederic,Can you contact me via email please. I would like to discuss some of your claims here.You mention working with/for Flightdeck Solutions, Ltd. My company. Not sure I have ever heard of you though.You have posted a few shots of your simulator yet the first is one we built and delivered to our friends at Atlantic Airventure, not sure what you did on that piece as it went direct from us to them.The second picture you posted was a completely different trainer and likely a real Level-D sim. Please do contact me as I have some concerns about you mentioning the representation of my company.Peter CosPresident

Yes I was Ronan. I flew with KLM and Ryanair.I am retired now and still involved in aviation education andfixed base 737 simulators.I am also involved in cockpit building and have been part of building flightdecks for a few movies.I help Flightdeck Solutions (Toronto) with their European customers. Frederic Steiner.Right and wrong !! No longer flying for a living. Fred.
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Uh oh. You would be better contacting him through PM, and if unable to reach him, contact one of the forum mods (not PMDG guys, avsim mods) about your issue

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I only use ILS approaches to get right on the glide, then I switch it off. Most of the cases you don't need to use it, besides we stay sitted for hours only watching the plane fly by itself, the landing is one of the fews moments we take the full control of it.

Why do people even care or wonder how others use their product? ....this thread is bizarre. They bought it, they can use it as they see fit. If they want to use autoland all the time or hand fly all the time it is up to them. I guess I just don't understand why some of you care so much how other people use this video game to even post...lol. What am I missing here? ....do people autolanding in severe clear weather some how effect you?
True, the OP may as well have said "I don't autoland, I'm more of a man than you mere morsels". So when the weather is real bad, and he needs to autoland, he won't know how to do it. It's great to autoland sometime (in clear weather) just to keep yourself current with how to do it, mix and match man and chill out.

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I always use autoland because I love it. Period.What is the obsession with people who like to use autoland...?

90% of the fun for me is trying to stick that perfect landing. I'd rather be a fake stick and rudder pilot than a fake systems administrator. I like to involve myself in the whole flight process as much as possible.

I only use ILS approaches to get right on the glide, then I switch it off. Most of the cases you don't need to use it, besides we stay sitted for hours only watching the plane fly by itself, the landing is one of the fews moments we take the full control of it.
Exactly. I want to fly the aircraft, I don't want to watch the aircraft fly itself more than I have to. What's the point? -johnny rodgers

There's nothing like a great and satisfying feeling after a good landing when hand-flown. But if the weather is too bad and visibility is very poor (IMC) then, I'd have to go for an autoland.

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