If I remember well PMDG people have stated that they used original Boring blueprints. In addition, considering that they 've put theirselves in the process of creating such a complex and detailed simulation, I find it quite difficult that they missed pretty obvious and basic things like dimensions and/or proportions. It's like building a car and then put bicycle tires.

I remember the kid that started the post after he noticed the tires appeared to be a little 'flat' on the bottom in all of the screenshots and was wondering if that was why it sounded like bump, bump, bump, bump, on the takeoff run as it gained speed. Ray

So yes, I haven't been fortunate enough to be in a real 737 flight deck yet, so when all I have to go by is pictures and videos, not from flickr or a friends photo I might add, and I have a question as to the modelling, I am obviously going to ask. Thats how we learn, we ask. Its not what was said that bothered me, rather the fact that instead of just not replying or just saying, yes the modelling is correct, pictures are deceiving at certain angles, he had to stick is nose in the air high and mighty and reply like he did. Anyways, this as gone on long enough. My question was answered and I'm done with this topic.

So yes, I haven't been fortunate enough to be in a real 737 flight deck yet, so when all I have to go by is pictures and videos, not from flickr or a friends photo I might add, and I have a question as to the modelling, I am obviously going to ask. Thats how we learn, we ask. Its not what was said that bothered me, rather the fact that instead of just not replying or just saying, yes the modelling is correct, pictures are deceiving at certain angles, he had to stick is nose in the air high and mighty and reply like he did. Anyways, this as gone on long enough. My question was answered and I'm done with this topic.

I concur. Some people in here are a bit too high and mighty. This is not any one persons private forum, it is for NGX customers to discover things they don't know, understand, or wish to share. sarahguiney, thanks for asking, and I'm glad you got an acceptable answer. Oh, and sarahguiney, please sign your posts so the admins don't delete them.

oops, i signed my first post then forgot the rest. Should make a signature. Sarah Guiney

Just wondering if anybody else has noticed that the VC Model "seems" to be off a little bit. I say "seems" because I have never been in a real 737, only seen pictures so I don't know for sure. The window area between the glaresheild and overhead seems to be too big. In pictures and videos, it seems much smaller and slimmer than this. It just seems that the overall VC should be "stretched" out a little bit. Hope you understand what I'm trying say here. Maybe this is what RSR was referring to when he said they have an updated VC model for the SP. I would like to say again, I have never been in a real 737 cockpit, so I'm not saying it is wrong, just looks like it from pictures and videos I've seen, so please don't crap on me. Thanks Sarah Guiney

I have been in quite a few 737 cockpits and i have thought about the same thing. Everytime i stood right behind the center pedestal and leaned myself forward, it seems as the windows are more vertically "slimmed". But as someone else said, it's a different thing once you actually are sitting in the seat and are quite close to the glaresheild. -Erik Norberg

Perhaps these screenies might help explain Erik's reply more precisely: Notice the windshield(s) from the Capt's point of view: And the FO's point of view: Now see the difference from all the way at the back: Sorry for the way first reply, and please accept his apology. Cheers

Even if you've never been in any aeroplane cockpit at all, it is not too difficult to see why things might appear a bit off; get in a car and shove the seat backwards and forwards and make a few observations. You'll get a lot of different impressions of what shape the windshield is. Now translate that to a 2D image where you have no parallax effects, and you can understand why it might look a bit off in a PC sim on a monitor. But if PMDG have employed blueprints and a laser measuring gauge when in the cockpit of the real NG they used for reference (as I'm guessing they probably did), then one has to assume it is pretty close to the real thing as far as the actual 3D VC model dimensions are concerned. Personally, I find the default view a bit too far forward myself, but I can understand that it was done in order to get the collimation of the HGS nicely aligned, so I can live with the decision they made. Frankly with the level of fidelity it demonstrates in general, I'm still amazed they sold it for the price they did, I was expecting to pay a lot more, and would have happily done so too. Although they do need to stop arsing around and get the Westland Woodpigeon out instead of messing about with all that NGX SP and triple seven nonsense. Al

I do remember RSR saying a while back that the NGX cockpit is going to take some getting used to. I guess, like RSR also said, I am just a victim of years of bad modelling. Sarah

I do remember RSR saying a while back that the NGX cockpit is going to take some getting used to

That's certainly true of most Boeing cockpits, which are somewhat notorious for being small, although if you'd ever been in the cockpit of a B-24, they'd seem spacious by comparison LOL You can add an extra element of realism to your 737 experience with the NGX incidentally, by smashing your shins into the corner of a bed or any other low down piece of furniture, in order to simulate squeezing past the centre pedestal to get into the pilot's seat. Al

Yes, I guess so, maybe a little too harsh. Sorry, It just there are dumb posts, and then there are really dumb posts, and then there is this one that . . . I've never ever seen one, but, I did see a photograph and whadda think, is this wrong, and this too short or too big or too little. Com'on gimme a break. Ray

Be easier to give you a break if you had given the OP a break...jeeze that was rude ugly and totally uncalled for.

I am just a victim of years of bad modelling. Sarah

You're a model? Sorry....cheap shot!

People on here can hold a grudge.Ray has apologized jeez what else do you want from him? Are you going to bombard him until he leaves the forum? Just remember if you slip up and I see it who could hold me? :(

"...to simulate squeezing past the centre pedestal to get into the pilot's seat." Al

I usually just step on the center isle console, just have to make sure to re-tune the radios!