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10 knots/second deceleration at idle fix

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Does the gauge you made, scale the simulated prop drag with the throttle position or the prop control?If you have been able to scale it with throttle control, then I would love to test it for ya.PM me if you still wanna send the gauge file out.JB
I used throttle control as a reference. Already PM you.Regards,Tom
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I used throttle control as a reference. Already PM you.Regards,Tom
Thanks Tom... Gonna get to the file in a few hours. JB

Buzz313th

Same... why don't you attach it to a reply, so anyone can try it. Also, what do you use to edit gauge parameters and which gauge is it?Regardless of what beta should or should not do on particular airplane, an F1 (idle detent on Saitek, 0 throttle value, no negatives) throttle setting should be considered "flight idle". Negative throttle settings (pressing F2 after pressing F1) can induce whatever logic might appropriate for beta range and associated reverse thrust. Beta range is nothing more than a near 0 to negative propeller blade angle that may or may not induce parachute-like drag (my guess is that it would not provide as much drag as real spoilers).
Already PM you. Gauge name is DRAG.XML, and is located inside GCCB,CAB file, so you need to extract the CAB into a folder with the same name, and FSX will look for that folder instead of the CAB file. And you can use any XML editor to modify the gauge, its very simple.As for Beta mode, I understand in the real Caravan IDLE position is just ou of Beta, with a propeller pitch of 15,6 º,the upper Beta limit. Spring forcing the lever down, beta is active down to 0 º of prop pitch, beyond that is negative pitch and reverse action. Beta -and reverse as well- are often used on ground to slow down when taxiing to preserve the brakes. The Carenado Caravan has a propeller pitch of 1 º at idle, almost full beta, which is unrealistic, but it's the best method they seemed to find just to let the a/c slow down on ground at idle, otherwise it keeps accelerating and brakes need to be used frequently-something unrealistic also. As a result of all this configuration, propeller RPM go down from 1000 -a Beta number- to 800 as power is applied just out of IDLE, when on real they should go the other way -800 is the IDLE base, and always increases with power. I'm still playing with RPM gauge and aircraft.cfg to bring this as close as real; long time to go though...Regards,Tom

Taguilo, you are the man.I just did my first flight and steady state approach with your updated Drag.XML file inserted into the .cab. All I have to say is that you have now made the Carenado Caravan a absolute joy to fly.I have a few questions for you really... 1. Is there anything I can do to help to possibly make the numbers match?2. You should probably submit it at some point to Carenado.3. I have a complete Reality XP panel that I made for this plane, where I can't get the RXP weather radar to fully work. I believe I need to remove a gauge file from the cab to completely disable the default WX radar from carenado. Can you help with that?JB

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Taguilo, you are the man.I just did my first flight and steady state approach with your updated Drag.XML file inserted into the .cab. All I have to say is that you have now made the Carenado Caravan a absolute joy to fly.I have a few questions for you really... 1. Is there anything I can do to help to possibly make the numbers match?2. You should probably submit it at some point to Carenado.3. I have a complete Reality XP panel that I made for this plane, where I can't get the RXP weather radar to fully work. I believe I need to remove a gauge file from the cab to completely disable the default WX radar from carenado. Can you help with that?JB
Good news it worked as expected!Answering your questions,1-I think it's still necessary to add the drag factor to reverse in flight, and check the takeoff roll distance; my test gave 1530 feet at full load (8000+ lbs) where it should be around 1400.2-Maybe, but later after the complete overhaul of this great bird is finished. Actually I'm currently working on many systems to make them function as real as it gets, -for example, a rework of engine gauges -ITT, Ng, torque, Fuel Flow (this one behaves really bad on startup) -rework of starter (now it has the three position, and I can make it motor to cool and clean the engine), generator, electrics logic, engine relight at high altitude, etc, etc. Oh, and I've also put sound to all the switches and levers, -don't you think the original is too silent?3-The Wx Radar is mapped on PANEL.CFG, section [Vcockpit04], gauge05. Try replacing that gauge with RealityXP and see what happens.Regards,Tom
Good news it worked as expected!Answering your questions,1-I think it's still necessary to add the drag factor to reverse in flight, and check the takeoff roll distance; my test gave 1530 feet at full load (8000+ lbs) where it should be around 1400.2-Maybe, but later after the complete overhaul of this great bird is finished. Actually I'm currently working on many systems to make them function as real as it gets, -for example, a rework of engine gauges -ITT, Ng, torque, Fuel Flow (this one behaves really bad on startup) -rework of starter (now it has the three position, and I can make it motor to cool and clean the engine), generator, electrics logic, engine relight at high altitude, etc, etc. Oh, and I've also put sound to all the switches and levers, -don't you think the original is too silent?3-The Wx Radar is mapped on PANEL.CFG, section [Vcockpit04], gauge05. Try replacing that gauge with RealityXP and see what happens.Regards,Tom
1. Obviously you did your tests at ISA and seal level considering ground roll?2. I would love to be of help if you need someone to test for ya.3. I did replace the gauge, but when you do that it removes all the textures of the VC. So my bandaid was to reduce the size of the gauge to one pixle and leave it in. Then I can get the RXP gauge in there. Either way I would like to remove it all together.Thanks again.JB

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1. Obviously you did your tests at ISA and seal level considering ground roll?2. I would love to be of help if you need someone to test for ya.3. I did replace the gauge, but when you do that it removes all the textures of the VC. So my bandaid was to reduce the size of the gauge to one pixle and leave it in. Then I can get the RXP gauge in there. Either way I would like to remove it all together.Thanks again.JB
1- Obviously2-I can give you more stuff to test as soon I have it ready.3-Maybe you're doing something wrong? When I remove the Wx gauge, what happens is a black area appears where the radar was, but all the textures remain. Do you say that VC textures disappear when you ADD the RXP gauge, or just when you remove the original Wx gauge?Tom
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2-I can give you more stuff to test as soon I have it ready.
Please include me... I'd like to finally enjoy the plane I paid for. Before my initial duct-tape fix I flew it a total 0.5 hours. With you gauge update I am finally starting to use it.
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I attempted to take care of modifying the DRAG.xml file as you explained, but I have to admit - my experience with an XML editor is limited to files I'm already familiar with. Point is, I didn't know what to change or do, truthfully. I've also had problems with the 208's decleration - especially when I'm trying to ride the edge of a stall when landing on a tiny bush strip. I fly with Eagle Valley Air VA - they have a lot of routes with a "postage stamp" - sized destination airports. If you reduce throttle too much in the 208, well, you all know how the CVan behaves without Taguilo's fix. The instrument panel gets into your face - real quick.Could I get a copy of the modified guage so I can install it into my 208s? I would greatly appreciate it. The only thing I can offer is help with testing now or in the future. I would be willing to purchase it considering the amount of improvement it makes. I hope I didn't breech any forum rules by saying that... I'm not new to FS, but I'm brand new to the forums, etc.. What a great resource.Thanks for your info and time - everyone who got into this. This is part of what is so cool about flight simming - working together to fix a problem. Congress could learn a lot from us...Mark

I would like to get a copy of this gauge as well, if that is possible. Mike Gutierrez, North Hollywood, California

Michael Gutierrez. North Hollywood, California

Could I get a copy of the modified guage so I can install it into my 208s?
I would like to get a copy of this gauge as well, if that is possible.
Please check your PMsRegards,Tom
Please check your PMsRegards,Tom
Thank you Tom for the file. Much appreciated. Mike Gutierrez, North Hollywood, Califonria

Michael Gutierrez. North Hollywood, California

Hi TomWould you send me this gauge.Many thanksPaul

Paul EGLD

I can send it to ya as well. You can pm me your email

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