So "beta" in the Google sense of the word rather. I can understand that, I get the idea of continuous improvement. But on the other hand I have no assurances from Laminar that the product will improve in the areas that I would want it to. There's no public roadmap and it seems rather a lot of these improvements rest on the goodwill of the X-Plane community.

Actually, you are wrong.Austin listens to customers feedback and adds features that are asked of him (within reason).

Hmm. When I pay my 80$ I don't want to be depedent on Austin's whims either.What I want is a good enough sim in the box to start flying right away.

Hmm. When I pay my 80$ I don't want to be depedent on Austin's whims either.What I want is a good enough sim in the box to start flying right away.

Dave it's quite simple, don't buy it, and move on! You've been clogging up posts here, arguing aimlessly for the past couple of days.

Hmm. When I pay my 80$ I don't want to be depedent on Austin's whims either.What I want is a good enough sim in the box to start flying right away.

You CAN start flying right away. Many people already have.

Hmm. When I pay my 80$ I don't want to be depedent on Austin's whims either.What I want is a good enough sim in the box to start flying right away.

You don't need to be dependent on Austin's whims. You have a constantly updated free demo to try. If and when you'll find the demo good enough for the price X-Plane 10 will have at the moment, you'll buy it. It's really that simple.Marco

Again ... a thread hijacked ... What was the topic about ... hmmm ?

Dave it's quite simple, don't buy it, and move on! You've been clogging up posts here, arguing aimlessly for the past couple of days.

I must apologise then for clogging up the forum. I had no idea that in an internet forum posts relevant to the topic were actually discouraged.

Hmm. When I pay my 80$ I don't want to be depedent on Austin's whims either.What I want is a good enough sim in the box to start flying right away.

What? didnt you fly the demo/beta ... you will certainly be able to start flying right away ..... you have to already know this!

Shame.. Real Shame.. Post that begins by showing a wide array of screenshots turns into a bash as to why or why not to buy the sim.. Seems like in the end ALL the posts get to this point..

Shame.. Real Shame.. Post that begins by showing a wide array of screenshots turns into a bash as to why or why not to buy the sim.. Seems like in the end ALL the posts get to this point..

It's a new product that very few people have in their hands just yet. It's also pretty much the only alternative to FSX. The screenshots were posted by the person that worked on the scenery to promote interest in buying the product. This post is an advertismentSo of course we're going to discuss whether or not it's worth buying What else is there to discuss? do you believe that computer game screenshots have intrinsic artistic merit and we should be discussing the composition and choice of colours?

What? didnt you fly the demo/beta ... you will certainly be able to start flying right away

Sadly, Seattle seemed to be missing from my demo download - all I could see was green fields, a few suburban houses and roads that went nowhere

People ask for world scenery screenshots, developer posts them, gets accused of advertising.People ask for world scenery screenshots, developer doesn't post them, developers get accused of hiding something.In the eyes of a "special" rare few, sometimes, you just...can't...win

People ask for world scenery screenshots, developer posts them, gets accused of advertising

Calling something advertising is not an accusation. That would suggest that its bad for a developer to advertise their new software on a special interest forum that relates to their product. I don't think that it is bad at all, I was very curious to see screenshots of the rest of the world.

In the eyes of a "special" rare few, sometimes, you just...can't...win

And seemingly here, a special rare few just simply cannot stand any reasonable discussion of their favourite software. You just can't win.

Calling something advertising is not an accusation. That would suggest that its bad for a developer to advertise their new software on a special interest forum that relates to their product. I don't think that it is bad at all, I was very curious to see screenshots of the rest of the world.And seemingly here, a special rare few just simply cannot stand any reasonable discussion of their favourite software. You just can't win.

Ok, you know best.

Nice screenshots.Only one thing ... in my opinion cities look too green.

Only one thing ... in my opinion cities look too green.

Which will be taken care off