The one question I really like is, "My radios don't work"!OOPS, no auto-tuning!

You want those people as customers as well.

Airports are not important to you in a flight simulator, how odd

Airports are extremely import. Airport scenery, on the other hand, is not a make-or-break feature for me, maybe because the small, obscure airports I love flying out of never receive any attention from sim developers anyway.That said, things are going to get fun when WED is released and the X-Plane community starts populating all those airports with accurate scenery. I'll probably even contribute some of my own when I have the time.

A couple months ago I was flying with my exflying partner in his new plane and he said let's land at ktew and get some fuel-it's cheap there. I came in-made a landing, and started slamming the brakes on. What are you doing he asked-I said I'm running out of runway-he said don't worry-its sloped in the middle. Sure enough I let off the brakes and had plenty. Sloped runways at least to me are a good thing-even if they may be overdone a little. Ktew only shows a .1% gradient-but once you hit the numbers it looks half as long....

Yep, Falwell Airport is able to support planes larger than other airports of that size because the sloped runway helps during take-offs and landings. I was pleased to see that this aspect is accurately modeled in X-Plane 10 with increased acceleration during take-off.

OK. So XPX is better then FSX because it has a few sloped runways?

It's at least better in that respect, yes.

Why do people continually want to compare XP10 with a FSX Default?

Because that makes it a fair comparison. Comparing XP10 to FSX + hundreds of dollars worth of add-ons really skews things. In that case we may as well hold off on any comparisons for another few years and wait until XP10 has a variety of its own high quality third party add-ons.

At the default settings though, XP10 just looks bad.

Show me a game that doesn't look bad at default (i.e. low) settings. Fortunately, most of us don't have to settle for the default settings in XP10 and have a great looking sim with terrific performance.

I would rather have terminals and hangers at most of the runways then sloped runways on 3, but thats just me I guess. Have they fixed the improperly sloped KSEA yet?

Edited January 4, 201214 yr by MVGibbage

Have they fixed the improperly sloped KSEA yet?

I would not hold my breath.Laminar's solution to all scenery problems is software based - enmasse - or thru "updates". Individual or selective area patches are rare or non-existent.

Like I said, and like TKyler said, other things have taken priority over scenery. The scenery WILL be addressed, but later. I'm not sure where you get your info, m_av. Or maybe you're just some vindictive developer who hates Austin for what he has done to WED and OE and you're just trying to reach for negative things to say about x plane. "I really want X Plane to succeed!". Ya, right. Pull the middle one.In the meantime, just uncheck "Runway follows terrain contour" and Seattle is all flat and you're good to go.Couldn't be simpler. But for the fact you hate the UI, I'm sure you can navigate to just THAT part of the menu.

Its the FRICKEN DEMO AREA! How can you let such a big bug just slide under the carpet in the demo area? Not like it just slipped in under the radar. Even in the early video's you could see it clear as day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmX6n26VQSAOct 31's. The big hill all the aircraft are climbing before takeoff. BTW, if I use that feature, doesent it remove the vaulted "sloped runways" ppl were just bragging about?

Why do people continually want to compare XP10 with a FSX Default?

Because that makes it a fair comparison. Comparing XP10 to FSX + hundreds of dollars worth of add-ons really skews things. In that case we may as well hold off on any comparisons for another few years and wait until XP10 has a variety of its own high quality third party add-ons.

I am not sure they should be compared directly. IMHO it's only fair to compare what your dollars get you. for xplanes price tag you can easily get fsx gold + an orbx addon of your choice with a bit left over, e.g. the orbx pacific north west. When you compare what $ eighty bucks gets you with fsx then thats a fair comparison with what eighy bucks gets you with xplane. That what I do when I spend my money anyway.

Its the FRICKEN DEMO AREA! How can you let such a big bug just slide under the carpet in the demo area? Not like it just slipped in under the radar. Even in the early video's you could see it clear as day.http://www.youtube.c...d&v=dmX6n26VQSAOct 31's. The big hill all the aircraft are climbing before takeoff.BTW, if I use that feature, doesent it remove the vaulted "sloped runways" ppl were just bragging about?

Relax, Kevin. It's already been hypothesized that maybe the data was old. You yourself said there USED TO be a slope at Seattle and it was flattened out.So theres a slope on the runway. Some slopes are exaggerated. BIG DEAL! Why is it such a huge deal for you? I've seen FSX add ons that cost more than FSX itself that have huge bugs that are swept under the rug. And these bugs are big enough to crash the entire sim. Why are you pushing so hard for some kind of immaculate level of perfection. It's a bug. It'll get addressed. Laminar have always addressed bugs. ALWAYS. Ever since X Plane became commercial. Show me a product that was released with the perfection you're wanting. ANY flight sim product that has NEVER had to be patched or updated and was 100% bug free.If the slope bugs you, turn it off. If it doesn't leave it on. Instead of ######ing about it in the forums, and having an interest in developing for x plane, perhaps you could do something productive and file a bug report with Laminar about it.

Its no big deal? I thought it was a plausable world? That slope on a major airport is in no way plausable. No sim is ever 100% bug free, but I dont remember St Martin having floating hangers and half sloped runway.

The bug has got to be that the mesh is not accurate enough for what they want to do, thats what my other post was about and how you can clearly see that is the problem when you have runways near cliffs. The only way they will clear it up is to hand fix all of those runways or add in some logic to terraform the terrain around the runway when the mesh dissapears under a runway.

Its no big deal? I thought it was a plausable world? That slope on a major airport is in no way plausable. No sim is ever 100% bug free, but I dont remember St Martin having floating hangers and half sloped runway.

Let me break it down for you.For me, and for many others, it's not a big deal. Apparently, it is for you. What can I say? Sorry, Kevin. I wish the slope wasn't there. Is it WRONG to have a slope there? Sure it is. Can they fix it RIGHT NOW? You and I both know the answer is no. Will they fix it LATER. Most likely. If you have an interest in X Plane, then by all means, file a bug report and voice your issues with the Laminar team. Whining about it in here wont get you very far and all you'll do is get worked up from hearing the same responses over and over again.If you DON'T have an interest in x plane, WHY ARE YOU HERE? Just to complain about something you're not even involved in? Wait...is that "trolling"?Be pro-active if you're interested in x plane. For my last point, I sent you a PM.

That slope on a major airport is in no way plausable.

If what Goran said is true, that the runway really did used to have a hump on it, then it is absolutely plausible, it's just not accurate. Besides, it's still perfectly functional and doesn't break anything, so I don't see what the big deal is.

I dont remember St Martin having floating hangers and half sloped runway.

I don't remember FSX having any slopes at all. So what?

It was actually Kevin (MVGibbage), who lives in the area, that told me Seattle used to have the slope.

Just a point about sloped runways that I thought was interesting. When I was using the demo while waiting for my disks I downloaded some scenery that contained airports. I think they were from the french projects. Both addons required me to disable sloped runways so that the buildings would appear properly. I also have a couple of fsx addons that also add sloped runways in to fsx. Is it common for xplane scenery to require the sloped runways to be turned off?