Why, so you can ignorantly tell me that my opinion is wrong? Why don't you show me a post where you don't come across as a blatant troll.

OK, show us all the realistic terminals at KATL or KDTW with all the AI traffic coming and going. Maybe that would be easier.

Some of us despite flying rwfor 23 years have never flown to katl or kdtw and never expect to-it isn't a necessary part of our flying experience and therefore not a necessary part of our simming experience. Probably why it is a good thing to have sims that address different areas..I personally have never flown into a class B airport and would not want to..(well I almost flew into Dulles once to visit the museum till I found there was a $50 landing fee, fuel was 2.00/gal more and it would take me 20 minutes to taxi anywhere-went to Leesburg 5 minutes away-a rental car for $26 was a much better deal).

I almost flew into Dulles once to visit the museum till I found there was a $50 landing fee, fuel was 2.00/gal more and it would take me 20 minutes to taxi anywhere-went to Leesburg 5 minutes away-a rental car for $26 was a much better deal).

You guys have it far too easy, my only RL flying experience is with gliders, jumping out of planes (short flights) and paragliding. I have similar stories to yours above but they are more like - I wanted to land there but the wind changed my mind and I landed 20 minutes away where I hiked for a further 40 through farmland until I hitched a ride back to somewhere with transport.. Are you guys having fun up there in first class? ;)

BTW, I didn't get one single reply to my thread on sloped runways and if you are a bush flyer or such I wonder how many of them will work all that well. Sloped runways.

That's because     there are too many     interruptions in the text to     know what you were saying...Using a plain text editor to compose postings is a good thing! :lol:If I were to respond to your     post, I'd say that the underlying mesh would (will?) make a world of difference with XPX and it's ability to have non-flat runways. I might have mentioned that to someone very recently? At this point in time, I can't even get an accurate number of the airports in XPX. But that exploration time is still a long ways off, once I get off my rear-end and do something... :(

Meshman-I have noticed when you go back to edit a post sometimes you get the the   stuff-which you have to go back and tediously self edit out (which is better than I guess making your reader do it!). Sounds to me like high detail mesh would be very valuable to xplane...

Some of us despite flying rwfor 23 years have never flown to katl or kdtw and never expect to-it isn't a necessary part of our flying experience and therefore not a necessary part of our simming experience. Probably why it is a good thing to have sims that address different areas..I personally have never flown into a class B airport and would not want to..(well I almost flew into Dulles once to visit the museum till I found there was a $50 landing fee, fuel was 2.00/gal more and it would take me 20 minutes to taxi anywhere-went to Leesburg 5 minutes away-a rental car for $26 was a much better deal).

Yes Geof, but even the GA airports in FSX has hangar, tower and other airport buildings many (atleast in the US) in it's appropriate location on the airport grounds. XP airports are just flat (Except for the sloped runways).

Edited January 3, 201214 yr by tf51d

That's because     there are too many     interruptions in the text to     know what you were saying...Using a plain text editor to compose postings is a good thing! :(

Geez, you are right, what on earth happened there, I typed it all out in the web browser.. I Will see if I can edit it out.

I think it is fair to compare what a consumer can go out and buy right now. Like anything, you compare the value of the items at the time on the price. FSX at $29 has got to be very good value indeed to xplane at $79.

OK but you forgot something: with FSX you first need to buy Windows. :( With X-Plane, you don't need Windows: you save a lot money if like me you're using a free (and faster) operating system.If you want to count the number of default detailed airports. OK there's KSEA and LOWI but don't forget all the Aerosoft airports. You can find a list in the 3rd link in a screen shot.http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php/topic/50291-x-plane-10-us-community-edition/http://xplane10.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/aerosofts-airport-scenery-and-a-plausible-world-in-xp10-part-i/http://xplane10.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/the-news-for-19-december-lfmn-in-xp10-ptii-thieves-in-the-night/That's still less than in FSX, but again, it's easy to add airports in X-Plane (a matter of a few seconds during your flight preparation if a nice scenery is available):http://forum.avsim.net/topic/358390-laminar-xpx-vs-ms-flight-staff-numbers/page__view__findpost__p__2209762

When you look at the path X-plane has taken over the years, it has slowed, halted and/or broken 3rd party developed aircraft, scenery, plugins, tools and utilities by changing the basic program, changing formats or fixing some bugs and introducing new ones; the path is littered with bruised, hurt individuals and groups with casualties all along the way. 3rd party developers, both freeware and payware, just walk away in DISGUST !

Who walked away in disgust ? Do you have one example ? I can still fly with planes from version 8 and 9 and visit very old sceneries. An add-on in X-Plane is a lot more durable than any add-on I bought for FS.http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/xplane-news/message/1702?l=1

Yes Geof, but even the GA airports in FSX has hangar, tower and other airport buildings many (atleast in the US) in it's appropriate location on the airport grounds. XP airports are just flat (Except for the sloped runways).

Yep-I hope they fix this aspect it soon. In the meantime look how many freeware airports I already have in my custom folder self correcting this situation myself (screenshot forum)-there are quite a lot already available. It took a while to correct the "deserts" of FSX-and I'll be patient a similar amount of time for the deserts of airports to be corrected-but I even have limited patience... :(

Basically, Seatak runway is NOT sloped. Its a huge glaring bug in XPX and its been there for a long time, and even in the alpha's and beta's. So much for the support the 79$ buys you if they cant even fix such a big error in the DEMO. Typically for a demo, you put your best foor forward. Badly sloped runways and huvering buildings (due to the slope) is not your best foot.

Edited January 3, 201214 yr by MVGibbage

OK but you forgot something: with FSX you first need to buy Windows. :( With X-Plane, you don't need Windows: you save a lot money if like me you're using a free (and faster) operating system.

Well, for the price of all the aerosoft stuff I am sure you could buy yourself a copy of windows, one or twice or three times over :) I am sure most people dont have the cost of windows as part of their decision. Obviously you don't have a mac so you must be a linux lover eh! :) btw, I had have linux since it was on a single 1.44mb floppy and it went straight to root as login was not yet implemented. Thankfully it wasnt too long before SLS had a release and it was fun times, it replaced my minix and coherent os/s

Edited January 3, 201214 yr by JasonHarris

Well I guess you could turn that around and say FS has never had kavx sloped (a notorious aircraft destroyer because of it and xplane has it). Is the glass empty or full-or balanced?<edit> Just checked Airnav.com and Ksea runways 16C have a .6% gradient down....

Why don't you show me a post where you don't come across as a blatant troll.

OK, show us all the realistic terminals at KATL or KDTW with all the AI traffic coming and going. Maybe that would be easier.

Nope, try again.You see, I said that it's my opinion that default XP10 looks better than default FSX. You come along and say, "But, but, but, X-Plane doesn't have feature X, Y, and Z! :("And I say, so what? It's still my opinion that it looks better. Those features might be important to you, but they're not important to me, hence an opinion that apparently differs from yours. All I can say is get over it.

Well I guess you could turn that around and say FS has never had kavx sloped (a notorious aircraft destroyer because of it and xplane has it). Is the glass empty or full-or balanced?<edit> Just checked Airnav.com and Ksea runways 16C have a .6% gradient down....

Falwell airport in Lynchburg, VA is rather famous (or infamous) in Central Virginia for its sloped runway. It was disappointingly flat as a pancake in FSX but properly sloped as in real life in XP10. I've said it before, X-Plane 10 might lose some, but it definitely wins some as well.

Typically for a demo, you put your best foor forward

Yeah, I can never figure out my left foor from my right. All in all, it's better than putting your foor in your mouth though.