January 10, 201214 yr I always get a good nights sleep cause I can't hear a thing. I was just thinking what the backlash would be like if they said you couldn't land at night at say JFK for example.This is your captain: We missed our window to land and all New York Airports are currently closed for the night. We are now diverting to Cleveland for an 8 hour layover until morning.Airlines know what the curfews times are and allow for this so if they happen to miss the curfew time and land at an alternate airport than u get a free nite in a hotel with dinner I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 10, 201214 yr Airlines know what the curfews times are and allow for this so if they happen to miss the curfew time and land at an alternate airport than u get a free nite in a hotel with dinner. Tell this to the passengers that was flying with Jet Blue and got stuck on the Tarmac overnight. Nobody on those flights got a hotel or dinner. Edited January 10, 201214 yr by UAL115 Paul Deemer
January 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member Hi I am trying to out how to tell which airports gce noise abatement. Procedures I know ksna does but where do I find a lust of othersWelcome to the forums. Sign your name per forum rules. They are cracking down on this, and posts are getting deleted because of it.I always get a good nights sleep cause I can't hear a thing. I was just thinking what the backlash would be like if they said you couldn't land at night at say JFK for example.This is your captain: We missed our window to land and all New York Airports are currently closed for the night. We are now diverting to Cleveland for an 8 hour layover until morning.Noise abatement puts me in a terrible mood. Most of the cases in the United States are because people built their houses next to the airport. California is notorious for this (in one case residents bought houses off of Palomar Airport Road and claimed they didn't know the airport was there when they moved in, in order to get the restriction). It also happened out here on the East Coast, in Leesburg, VA. They put townhouses less than a mile off the departure end of 35, and had plans for some even closer until the county stepped in and realized their mistake, partially too late.The noise of an aircraft is generally less than most noise disturbances, and of a generally lesser duration, yet people still complain. I know not everyone loves aircraft like me, but get over yourselves. Edited January 10, 201214 yr by scandinavian13 Kyle Rodgers
January 10, 201214 yr 23:00 local it is. but yes the rest is true, even if on short final and it ticks to 23:00 you're told to go around and bug out to either your origin or alternate.Whoa, that's a bit extreme. ATC do not enforce the curfew - there are aircraft that ARE permitted to operate into Sydney during curfew. It is up to the PIC to determine whether his/her operation complies with the law.In any case, generally, aircraft will not depart if they expect to arrive near the curfew commencement time unless they have received dispensation. Hoping that you arrive just before the curfew is a bad idea - the subsequent diversion would make everyone upset, or if the crew have get-it-down-itis, the maximum penalty for committing the offence is 1000 penalty units (where one penalty unit is AU$122.14 today). David Zhong New video every Thursday: Aircraft Lighting - Boeing 777
January 10, 201214 yr Tell this to the passengers that was flying with Jet Blue and got stuck on the Tarmac overnight. Nobody on those flights got a hotel or dinner.they probably got free tickets than for their next travel than I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 10, 201214 yr Well you being from Austraila I wouldn't expect you to understand. It is very different in the USA. The only thing they got was free tickets but sure was not enough compensation for their ordeal.http://abcnews.go.com/US/jetblue-flight-leaving-passengers-stranded-hours-investigated/story?id=14848073 Paul Deemer
January 10, 201214 yr Well you being from Austraila I wouldn't expect you to understand. It is very different in the USA. The only thing they got was free tickets but sure was not enough compensation for their ordeal.http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=14848073 My point was time curfew as david explained better than i did its abit different if the weather is envolved, the op wanted to know what airports that had noise abatements in force. I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 10, 201214 yr My point was time curfew asSo was mine until you became a self proclaimed expert on the US Airlines Policies. Things work differently up here. You don't always get a hotel and free meal. If US Airlines can srew you and get away with it they will. Edited January 10, 201214 yr by UAL115 Paul Deemer
January 10, 201214 yr So was mine until you became a self procolaimed expert on the US Airlines Policies. Things work differently up here. You don't always get a hotel and free meal. If US Airlines can srew you and get away with it they will.since where did i say i was an expert in us air policies Edited January 10, 201214 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member No sense in getting upset about either's understanding of anything here. Who cares who knows more? I'm not accusing either of you, and I'm not purporting to be a mod. I'm just trying to ask that this doesn't devolve into a situation where one becomes necessary so we can continue actually learning things here. Kyle Rodgers
January 10, 201214 yr Most, if not all, curfew policies I have read allow for a delayed flight to arrive after the "planning" curfew, generally up to one hour more.eg. curfew is 2200-0600LOC and you can not plan your flight to arrive later than 22:00 or earlier than 06:00, but if your flight is planned to arrive at 21:45 and you have a delay, you can land up to 2300 LOC.If there is a delay of more than 1:15 on departure, I would think it more practical to send everyone home and depart so that you arrive your destination minutes after 0600. --Peter Fabian
January 11, 201214 yr They're pretty strict on it here... so far 4 airlines have be fined for breaching the curfew.There are a few "curfew chaser" flights, which cannot be delayed by more than ~30 minutes before the ops department have to wake up the Minister to beg for dispensation David Zhong New video every Thursday: Aircraft Lighting - Boeing 777
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