January 27, 201214 yr I was telling a coworker today that I've been getting more OOM's especially in Orbx land. He recommended turning off the page file (I think.. or something to do with the PF).Wouldn't this be a bad idea? Also, does anyone have any recommendations to stop OOM's other than turning down settings? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
January 27, 201214 yr I was telling a coworker today that I've been getting more OOM's especially in Orbx land. He recommended turning off the page file (I think.. or something to do with the PF).Wouldn't this be a bad idea? Also, does anyone have any recommendations to stop OOM's other than turning down settings? You have co-workers that play FSX? :o LUCKYAKAIK, this is a limitation of 32Bit software. Although, P3D might be implenting 64Bit architecture in the far future. Edited January 27, 201214 yr by benorg
January 27, 201214 yr You have co-workers that play FSX? LUCKYHe also gets to play TRACON II all day long when not playing with FSX. :LMAO:Cheers,- jahman.
January 27, 201214 yr RyanThe paging file has nothing to do with OOM's :Kiss: . OOM's are due to the fact that the 4GB of VAS (NOT physical RAM or paging file) become defragmented or depleted. As benorg says OOM's are a limitation of 32-bit software even running on a 64-bit OS.IMHO it is a bad idea to remove the paging file as the Physical RAM (simply) uses it to cache data etc as well as other Windows functions (eg hard page faults). The size of the paging file is still contentious but with big modern HDDs it really doesn't matter what size you choose. I let Windows do it for me. It does get defragmented over time and some defrag programs can defragment it too. As an aside I have been looking at a registry hack that prevents VAS fragmentation but at the moment it is no better than using say an "Autosave" function every 2 or 3 minutes. This hack uses the 'HeapDecommitFreeBlockThreshold ' pointer at various values but I cannot find a value that works consistently.RegardsPeterH
January 27, 201214 yr It got me thinking: MAYBE swap file is causing more defragmentation of the VAS and possibly a high(er) VAS usage. The OOM itself happens when VAS has reached 4GB.I never did a really consecutive test with or without swap.But if you have enough RAM (8GB+), does it hurt to try it out?
January 27, 201214 yr It got me thinking: MAYBE swap file is causing more defragmentation of the VAS and possibly a high(er) VAS usage. The OOM itself happens when VAS has reached 4GB.I never did a really consecutive test with or without swap.But if you have enough RAM (8GB+), does it hurt to try it out?Couldn't see it hurting. As we're all aware only some programs require PF. I'll be switching mine off now and testing.Also, I don't see this benefiting us either. At all. Edited January 27, 201214 yr by ZachLW ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 27, 201214 yr I had it off on my old system with 8 GB RAM and it seemed that this reduced the shutters a lot and made all somehow smoother. I never had any OOM's whatsoever. Best regards, Steffen Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h
January 27, 201214 yr Ever since I got 4GB of RAM have I been running without swap. Never ever a problem. I'll be switching mine off now and testing.Please tell us your experience.It's impossible to measure the fragmentation though.
January 28, 201214 yr Welp. It's 26 hours later and I've had no issues (not that I suspected any). FSX performance is the same (didn't suspect it wouldn't be). I'll dig this thread up if I have issues relating to PF being off. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 28, 201214 yr Welp. It's 26 hours later and I've had no issues (not that I suspected any). FSX performance is the same (didn't suspect it wouldn't be). I'll dig this thread up if I have issues relating to PF being off.Any impact on VAS usage Zach? Edited January 28, 201214 yr by dazz
January 29, 201214 yr Any impact on VAS usage Zach?I'm not seeing anything, Dario. No differences. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 29, 201214 yr I don't personally recommend turning off the page file. It shouldn't be getting hit at all with FS running under normal operation if you've got enough physical RAM installed (6+ GB), but it is used under some abnormal conditions, such as a bluescreen crash. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 29, 201214 yr I don't personally recommend turning off the page file. It shouldn't be getting hit at all with FS running under normal operation if you've got enough physical RAM installed (6+ GB), but it is used under some abnormal conditions, such as a bluescreen crash.There's no compelling reason to have it set one way or another, besides crash reports. Kind of a boring subject, really! If you want to run with it off and have a stable system and 8GB+ memory, go for it. You'll get no benefits. If you want it enabled, have at it! ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 29, 201214 yr Author Are you guys even getting OOM's? The only time I get them is in Orbx Land. And usually with payware like NGX or Katana 4x... sometimes the duke even... | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
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